hookitt 1 #26 December 29, 2005 I'm curious as to why you say lose 2 inches? Look at the leg straps too, the pads are several inches from touching. It appears to me ... (semi educated guess) ... that the laterals could be a touch longer and so could the lift web. When I put on a rig either brand new or used, it should be fairly close to fitting without having to break it in or doing anything but tightening the straps. My lift web was too short on my rig and it fit just like the one in the picture. after adding 1 1/2 inches to the length, it's nearly perfect. I've made a harness or 2 and that's at least how it appears to me.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #27 December 29, 2005 QuoteI'm curious as to why you say lose 2 inches? Look at the leg straps too, the pads are several inches from touching. It appears to me ... (semi educated guess) ... that the laterals could be a touch longer and so could the lift web. When I put on a rig either brand new or used, it should be fairly close to fitting without having to break it in or doing anything but tightening the straps. My lift web was too short on my rig and it fit just like the one in the picture. after adding 1 1/2 inches to the length, it's nearly perfect. I've made a harness or 2 and that's at least how it appears to me. Just from experience it looks to me that the MLW is about 2" too long. The lateral looks to be about the correct length, so there is no binding (not pulling back) at the shoulders but the rig "slumps" on the users back. If the leg pads are comfortable but tight then that's about the only thing that can change. But, a caviat here: I do not know the yoke length, that will have an overall affect on harness geometry/ fit. Like I say it's just my educated guess without the benefit of seeing/ talking to the individual with the rig on in my shop (don't have one of those right now, shop that is). Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #28 December 29, 2005 QuoteContact Mark Procos - he is RWS's Sales and Marketing director. He's a good guy, he'll take care of whatever issues you have. His email address is mark AT relativeworkshop DOT com or Ph#386.736.7589 RWS is on vacation this week, but will be back, hard at work, January 3 of next year. For Great Deals on Gear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #29 December 29, 2005 Just a guess here as I’m just now learning about this stuff. I don’t think the MLW could be shortened. If it were the laterals could not be attached at the right point. I thought the MLW was a bit long on my rig but after talking to an experienced rigger he explained to me that it had to be that way to accommodate the laterals. It does appear the leg straps need to be rotated forward a bit which should take the low kink out of the MLW, assuming the laterals are long enough. As for the handles, it’s a bit hard to tell but they don’t look unreasonably positioned, but I do think rotating the leg pads to their proper place will move them forward a bit. But then what do I know…."We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #30 December 29, 2005 QuoteRWS is on vacation this week, but will be back, hard at work, January 3 of next year.That would be January 2nd. That is unless you are giving me an extra day off!Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #31 December 29, 2005 QuoteJust a guess here as I’m just now learning about this stuff. I don’t think the MLW could be shortened. If it were the laterals could not be attached at the right point. I thought the MLW was a bit long on my rig but after talking to an experienced rigger he explained to me that it had to be that way to accommodate the laterals. It does appear the leg straps need to be rotated forward a bit which should take the low kink out of the MLW, assuming the laterals are long enough. As for the handles, it’s a bit hard to tell but they don’t look unreasonably positioned, but I do think rotating the leg pads to their proper place will move them forward a bit. But then what do I know…. No offence here, but yeah, what do you know? Happy new year. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudOnMyTongue 0 #32 December 29, 2005 Quote As for the Cypres location ... That is the old school location, because sewing a window near the reserve ripcord pin is easy, while sewing a window into the back pad has to be done early in the production sequence. I am surprised that Relative Workshop sticks with the old position, as most of us believe that backpads are a safer place. Despite your worries, no-one has asked me to replace a window in a back pad over the last 15 years. Somebody once told me that Relative workshop puts the AAD window there because it forces you to look at your reserve pin at least once a day. I have no idea if there is any truth to that though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #33 December 29, 2005 QuoteNo offence here, but yeah, what do you know? Happy new year. Mick. None taken. "We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #34 December 30, 2005 OK, took it to Elsinore and Perris today, we concluded that the laterals need to be lengthened (around 1/2 inch) ... The MLW is the correct length from what was being told to me ... The leg straps in those pictures were tight, the pads dont quite touch. We tried "lifting the rig, rotating leg straps " just not a lot of room to move things around there, not really any way to make the rig sit higher on my back, it's pretty tight. While at Perris I tried on a V3 with a 1 " shorter MLW, and a slightly more than 1/2 inch longer lateral, and it brought the straps more to my front, however the hip rings were too high, ... This is how we figured what to do.. Guess I will contact RWS on Jan 2nd to figure it all out, just put my old Mirage G4 back into the loft to get my reserve repacked so I can start jumping that again. Thanks for the help guys (gals) , FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #35 December 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteRWS is on vacation this week, but will be back, hard at work, January 3 of next year.That would be January 2nd. That is unless you are giving me an extra day off! Sorry. Many businesses are observing New Years Day on the 2nd. For Great Deals on Gear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #36 January 24, 2006 Quote Quick educated guess: Lose 2" from the MLW, everything else looks good. Mick. Just got some hanging pictures, think you might be right ... Seems if I shorten the MLW the handles will actually go back farther though would they not? Yes, horrible pictures, I've been sick for OVER A WEEK NOW, and it shows! FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillLockwood 0 #37 January 24, 2006 So what did RWS say when you called them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #38 January 24, 2006 QuoteSo what did RWS say when you called them? They wanted the pictures I just posted, so I'm gonna talk to them again now that they have those ... So far they have been pretty good, I've been slow at getting them new pics etc. because I've been sick / working alot lately FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josheezammit 0 #39 January 24, 2006 as for the cypress bill booth made the vector 3 with the cypres control unit under the reserve flap, not to be a pain, but to make sure you check that reserve pin, i know its a burdensome thing to do, a gear check and all, but kelly farrington does the same with his infinities, safety first! I jump an Odyssey, and I assure you the next time I spend 2000.oo + on a container it will be a vector 3, fuck a cypress window, I want bullet proof tuck tabs and main pin closure Ahh, what a wonderful world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
