joedesk264 0 #1 August 6, 2008 I used to jump cross keys about 5 years ago and went there recently and was very disappointed. The place is a tandem factory and fun is not allowed by the non skydiving manager. His authority went way over his head and is kicking people off the dropzone for doing what we skydivers do, drink and have fun. I have friends at dropzones all over the country and I heard about this non skydiver manager and to be on my best behavior when I went there, that I should just go to manifest, pay them there money, jump and leave, thats all he wants. When I went there, it was about 95% tandems and the other 5% of fun jumpers that were there were telling me this place sucks anymore. please just bring back the old cross keys thats what we all want!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 August 6, 2008 Oh, nice... Real nice... make the first post under an anonymous screen name slamming a DZ like that. I thought John Eddowes is the manager/owner. He's a good guy. Have things changed?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #3 August 6, 2008 Foo, put down that hatorade. Mr. T. ain't got time for this jibba-jabba. No, seriously. Sack up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #4 August 6, 2008 Shouldn't this be under events and places to jump lol Don't feed the trollDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #5 August 6, 2008 This thread will now back fire in.... 5..... 4.... 3... 2.. 1. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #6 August 6, 2008 >The place is a tandem factory and fun is not allowed by the non >skydiving manager. His authority went way over his head and is kicking >people off the dropzone for doing what we skydivers do, drink and have >fun. You must have been at the wrong Cross Keys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #7 August 6, 2008 Cross Keys......... Cross? they'll be fucking livid when they read this (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 August 6, 2008 QuoteHis authority went way over his head and is kicking people off the dropzone for doing what we skydivers do, drink and have fun. Why don't you just tell us exactly what happened. Did you get kicked off for drinking alcohol while jump operations were still in progress? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abfrank2 0 #9 August 6, 2008 nope unless people jump and midnight in the pouring rain! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #10 August 6, 2008 Wow... first time posters in these kinds of threads are really coming out of the woodwork these days. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abfrank2 0 #11 August 6, 2008 I've met john a few times and he did seem to be a great guy but I guess this manager that he has got now is not doing to good for the fun skydiving and atmosphere at cross keys. ten years ago that was a great place to have fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stuntbabex 0 #12 August 6, 2008 This thread is stupid and worthless without evidence or proof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #13 August 6, 2008 Quote I've met john a few times and he did seem to be a great guy but I guess this manager that he has got now is not doing to good for the fun skydiving and atmosphere at cross keys. ten years ago that was a great place to have fun. Okay then, that puts it in perspective. I like John, I've jumped with him and jumped his Allouette helicopter a couple times as well as participated on three of the 100 way state record events he hosted in the late 90's. If what the OP (grow some balls and fill your damn profile!) says is true, then that's sad, as big and busy as the DZ is. If enough people contacted John himself to explain their opinions, wouldn't he be likely to re-evaluate the situation with the manager? He does after all, own the damn place, AFAIK."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #14 August 6, 2008 All I am gonna say is..... if you did enough drinking / debauchery to get kicked out of XKeys, then you either were doing something very very wrong, or something very very right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #15 August 6, 2008 Quote All I am gonna say is..... if you did enough drinking / debauchery to get kicked out of XKeys, then you either were doing something very very wrong, or something very very right. Could Paul Rafferty's death a few years back have had something to do with the policy shift, if there is one?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #16 August 6, 2008 >>> His authority went way over his head and is kicking people off the >>> dropzone for doing what we skydivers do, drink and have fun. >> Why don't you just tell us exactly what happened. >> Did you get kicked off for drinking alcohol while jump operations >> were still in progress? > nope unless people jump and midnight in the pouring rain! Okay then, we're back to: Why don't you just tell us exactly what happened? Until you come forward with the details, don't expect any sympathy towards your position. Are you trying to hide something that would make the DZO's decision look justified? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #17 August 6, 2008 Quote>The place is a tandem factory and fun is not allowed by the non >skydiving manager. His authority went way over his head and is kicking >people off the dropzone for doing what we skydivers do, drink and have >fun. You must have been at the wrong Cross Keys.He's probably upset 'cause he stopped at the Quik-Stop on the way to the DZ and Dante didn't give him a reach around."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #18 August 6, 2008 QuoteAre you trying to hide something that would make the DZO's decision look justified? NOOOOOOOOOO, what would ever give you that idea? /sheesh //has some troll food ///sits down on the bridge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 August 6, 2008 Quote //has some troll food ///sits down on the bridge FISH TROLL ON!!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidB 0 #20 August 6, 2008 I"m seriously thinking about breaking the 68 Barracuda out of the garage Saturday, meeting up with a few of my other old Mopar friends & making a drive out there for lunch. If I do, I'll report on what I find.When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #21 August 6, 2008 Quote Quote //has some troll food ///sits down on the bridge FISH TROLL ON!!! Holy shit Mikey I dreamed (if you can call it that when thoughts pop in your head at 3:30am) that I said that on another troll's thread and you were laughing! Whoa....~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #22 August 6, 2008 i have never been to cross keys but i know a couple dzo's that wanted to be like them and ran things the way cross keys does (from what i am told). they want the tandems and have very little tolerance for fun jumpers and our antics. that being said there are more dzs to jump at and do like our stupid skydiver shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #23 August 7, 2008 >if you did enough drinking / debauchery to get kicked out of XKeys . . . Yep. I recall one guy who stole a backhoe, drove it onto the DZ, and then was giving people "rides" on it by swinging the bucket around. One guy managed to get himself knocked out; people took pictures with him propped up between them. Then the owner of the backhoe came tearing across the DZ in his truck, and the thief hightailed it out of there. Never found out if he got caught or not. The owner had a few words with the DZ after that. Perhaps the OP did something similar, and is now peeved that you can actually get CRITICISM for stealing and vandalizing stuff! Can you believe the nerve of some people? It's just like Nazi Germany I tell ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #24 August 7, 2008 QuoteQuoteHis authority went way over his head and is kicking people off the dropzone for doing what we skydivers do, drink and have fun. Why don't you just tell us exactly what happened. Did you get kicked off for drinking alcohol while jump operations were still in progress? OK, 16 posts & about 8 hours later & he still hasn't told us what the fuck happened that got his nuts out of his sack. Speaks for itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 854 #25 August 7, 2008 suddenly an incident like "time to make the doughnuts" comes to mindme thinks the issues are that we don't all do the same drugs or have the illegal mindset as some others choose.or any at all for that matter...a few drinks by some seems to be seen as any amount of illegal drug induced behavior by others.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
