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QuoteQuoteConsidering how much difficulty I had accumulating a hundred different trim charts and learning all the different methods used by different manufacturers (most of which are not written down), it amazes me how cavalier young jumpers are about re-lining canopies.
I was talking to one young rigger about line sets and he said the easy way to make a new line set was to carefully measure the old line set one line at a time. I realized that it was a waste of my time to argue with that type of "reasoning".![[:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png "[:/]")
Sparky
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Ya' mean... that's not how you do it?
Chuck
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QuoteFARs are quite clear bout who can replace suspension lines: only Master Riggers.
after reading this i checked AC105-2C, the current version of part 105, and PPM volII. from what i have read, i feel a senior rigger could replace suspension lines on a non-certificated canopy all day long and be on pretty solid ground.
QuoteBut skydivers can always find a way around any regulation ... even if it is only in their own mind!
i don't feel like i have found a loophole. if i am wrong about this i really want to know.
blue stuff,
p.j.
pulling is cool. keep it in the skin
The text below is paragraph 12 from AC-105-2C.
Please read the part refering to line replacement.
It is considered a major repair.
Major repairs can not be done legally by Senior riggers unless supervised by a Master rigger.
Does not matter if it is a certified or non- certified(Main)
MEL
12 REPAIRS.
repairs.
Parachute repairs can be classed as major repairs or minor
A major repair, as defined in FAR Section 1.1, is a repair **...that,
if improperly done, might appreciably affect weight, balance, structural
strength, performance, powerplant operation, flight charactevistics, or other
qualities affecting airworthiness.” (Balance and powerplant operation do not
apply to parachutes.) A minor repair, as defined in FAR Section l.1,
8t . ..means a repair other than a major repair." Major repairs to parachutes
may be made by a master parachute rigger, an appropriately rated parachute
loft, or a manufacturer. Examples of major repairs are. replacement of a
canopy panel or suspension line, or sewing a large patch on a canopy. The
parachute manufacturer’s instructions should be followed when completing
repairs to any .portion of the parachute.
Please read the part refering to line replacement.
It is considered a major repair.
Major repairs can not be done legally by Senior riggers unless supervised by a Master rigger.
Does not matter if it is a certified or non- certified(Main)
MEL
12 REPAIRS.
repairs.
Parachute repairs can be classed as major repairs or minor
A major repair, as defined in FAR Section 1.1, is a repair **...that,
if improperly done, might appreciably affect weight, balance, structural
strength, performance, powerplant operation, flight charactevistics, or other
qualities affecting airworthiness.” (Balance and powerplant operation do not
apply to parachutes.) A minor repair, as defined in FAR Section l.1,
8t . ..means a repair other than a major repair." Major repairs to parachutes
may be made by a master parachute rigger, an appropriately rated parachute
loft, or a manufacturer. Examples of major repairs are. replacement of a
canopy panel or suspension line, or sewing a large patch on a canopy. The
parachute manufacturer’s instructions should be followed when completing
repairs to any .portion of the parachute.
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hey Mark,
i did read that paragraph, as well as the rest of AC-105-2C. according to PPM volII an advisory circular is not law, it is just meant to help inerpret the FARs. PPM volII also lists senior rigger as repair personnel for line replacement on non-certificated canopies. since i could manufacture bags of anvils and call them main parachutes and not violate the FAR's, i'm reasonably sure i wouldn't be taken to task for line replacement on said bag of anvils, even though i'm only a senior rigger.
pulling is cool. keep it in the skin
i did read that paragraph, as well as the rest of AC-105-2C. according to PPM volII an advisory circular is not law, it is just meant to help inerpret the FARs. PPM volII also lists senior rigger as repair personnel for line replacement on non-certificated canopies. since i could manufacture bags of anvils and call them main parachutes and not violate the FAR's, i'm reasonably sure i wouldn't be taken to task for line replacement on said bag of anvils, even though i'm only a senior rigger.
pulling is cool. keep it in the skin
Paul,
First off, AC's are used to further define the law and for guidance for rulemaking.
The PPM is not!
Senior riggers are the only ones that seem to think a senior rigger can replace lines!
Think about it!
Although there are several other areas that clearly define Major repairs, Modifications, and alterations to parachutes, most Senior riggers forget their previous training that explained that in detail.
An "emergency" AD is being brought up and written as I write this, to put a stop to that flawed thought process.
It should be out in Late Feburary!
MEL
First off, AC's are used to further define the law and for guidance for rulemaking.
The PPM is not!
Senior riggers are the only ones that seem to think a senior rigger can replace lines!
Think about it!
Although there are several other areas that clearly define Major repairs, Modifications, and alterations to parachutes, most Senior riggers forget their previous training that explained that in detail.
An "emergency" AD is being brought up and written as I write this, to put a stop to that flawed thought process.
It should be out in Late Feburary!
MEL
Skyworks Parachute Service, LLC
www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com
www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com
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hi Mark,
thank you for the input. i may not have been clear enough in my original post, but i was just trying to get another point of view on the topic. i was not trying to strike a nerve. i look forward to reading this AD you mention. it seems like that should take out alot of the grey areas that seem to exist.
blue stuff,
p.j.
pulling is cool. keep it in the skin
thank you for the input. i may not have been clear enough in my original post, but i was just trying to get another point of view on the topic. i was not trying to strike a nerve. i look forward to reading this AD you mention. it seems like that should take out alot of the grey areas that seem to exist.
blue stuff,
p.j.
pulling is cool. keep it in the skin
QuoteAn "emergency" AD is being brought up and written as I write this, to put a stop to that flawed thought process.
It should be out in Late Feburary!
The FAA is going to issue an airworthiness directive to interpret a FAR? Can you explain?
Dave
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i should probably mention that in reality, i have never replaced a suspension line without a master rigger's supervision.
blue stuff,
p.j.
pulling is cool. keep it in the skin
blue stuff,
p.j.
pulling is cool. keep it in the skin
I was talking to one young rigger about line sets and he said the easy way to make a new line set was to carefully measure the old line set one line at a time. I realized that it was a waste of my time to argue with that type of "reasoning".
Sparky
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