Royd 0 #1 June 7, 2008 Someone got rich. A horse named Da Tara smoked the Belmont Stakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evelyn 0 #2 June 7, 2008 Quote Someone got rich. A horse named Da Tara smoked the Belmont Stakes. Don't tell me. I've got it tevo'd to watch later . Actually no big deal, my husband is the one who is into it and he doesn't read these threads. Evelyn Life is either a daring adventure or nothing ~ Helen Keller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #3 June 7, 2008 QuoteSomeone got rich. A horse named Da Tara smoked the Belmont Stakes. And some horse definitely needs a drug screen pulled! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ncrowe 0 #4 June 8, 2008 The horse that won actually ran a pretty slow race. Big brown just decided not to run or his hoof crack was bothering him more than everyone let on "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leapinglizardto 0 #5 June 12, 2008 Quote Someone got rich. A horse named Da Tara smoked the Belmont Stakes. the actual payout was $38.50 on the dollar. good pony.Da Tara held the lead the entire time. straight from the gate to the finishline. never gave up spot #1 for a second. every horse in the stakes lineup was on one form of steroid or another. it's legal in the u.s. in all other countries it's illegal in horse racing except canada. the only pony slated to run the stakes saturday that was not on steroids was the japanese entry Casino Drive, who never ran it. he was scratched very early saturday morning.It's pretty pathetic when you have to TELL people you're fucking cool Skymama «narrative»This thread will lock in 3..2.. What a load of narrow-minded Xenophobic Bullshit!-squeak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #6 June 12, 2008 Maybe the hoof crack, but I was also reading some articles that said Big Brown wasn't the super horse people were making him out to be, and that the reason there hasn't been a triple crown winner in so long is because there just aren't any really great horses anymore. (a consequence of overbreeding?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #7 June 12, 2008 QuoteMaybe the hoof crack, but I was also reading some articles that said Big Brown wasn't the super horse people were making him out to be, and that the reason there hasn't been a triple crown winner in so long is because there just aren't any really great horses anymore. (a consequence of overbreeding?) I agree 200%! I have been around horses my entire life and from age 15 to about 21 I excercised race horses at tracks in Florida & New Mexico. Race Horses simply are not bred the way they were when Affirmed and Secretariat (to name a few) were around. Over Breeding is out of control and they are bringing these horses in for training way too young, when their bones and bodies just are not ready for it. Yes they look like big powerful well conditioned animals and for the most part they are, but that doesnt help them to by totally physically mature enough for it. When a horse is in a full run, all of his weight is on one foot at a time. That is a lot of weight and stress for a 2 yro colt to be under. I am just starting ground work at 2, and start riding at 3, and even put that off if their knees have not "closed" yet. A horse of any breed will not have "closed" knees at 2. It is getting border line abusive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leapinglizardto 0 #8 June 12, 2008 It is getting border line abusive. i agree. & thankfully the u.s. is trying to do away with the steroid use in the sport. which is also unhealthy & dangerous. nowadays too many owners or the trainers are in it for the greed fame & fortune. there was a time not to long ago that a greater number of the owners were in it more for the sport & love & respect for the beautiful majestic animals themselves. a time when they more often considered the potential risks to the animal more sensibly & compassionately, putting the pony's life & longevity as 1st priority. above instant gratification & overnight success. & they listened to & respected the pony's body language & what he was trying to tell them. today they all too often are also pushing the colts far beyond the limitations of the training & conditioning the pony has had to date. needlessly causing the colts untimely breakdown or worse yet, untimely death. go back 2 years to Babaro. a gorgeous colt. true athlete & champion. a solid & powerful as well as intelligent, well bred pony. with a beautiful demeanor & personality. strong healthy. undefeated & still running strong? yes so far . but this was mostly due to the fact that he only had to run like that at the most, once every 5-6 weeks. right up until the start of the triple crown he was only pushed that hard, on tracks that long with just the right balance of recovery time & conditioning time in between. he was only conditioned to run that way once every 1-2 months not weeks. you can not overnight simply decide to say screw it. lets enter him in not one, but all three of the longest most grueling runs known to horseracing all in a 6 week period. without gradually re-conditioning him to be able to run that way safely & in good health. sure i believe Babaro could & would have taken the triple crown in good health that year & had lengthy healthy career to follow. I wanted him to take that triple crown. but i had serious concern for his well-being knowing he only ran at 5-6 week intervals. when i saw the way he acted at the call for loading the gate i knew it was not a good sign) if he had been properly & slowly re-conditioned & trained to run like that every two weeks. he would have been fine & would've pulled it off. but that colt had always walked straight into the gate every time. without any hesitation, or nonsense. confident, calm & reserved & ready to run. every time in the past. the day he went down at the preakness he fought tooth & nail. he did not want to go into that gate. he did not want to run that day. it took nearly 5 full minutes to get, or maybe i should say force him in there this time. he did not feel up to running that race. he was telling them something was wrong. tragically they didn't listen. i do have to give the owners some credit. for at least trying to save his life, in spite of the tremendous expense it entailed & knowing that if he survived his career was over. & not instantly euthanizing him because the dollar signs had vanished into thin air. but overall it is heart-breaking, sinful & unacceptable that the trainer was allowed, to inexcusably push that beautiful animal to such an untimely demise. unfortunately more & more every year, this seem to be becoming the common trend as opposed to the rare isolated tragic incident.It's pretty pathetic when you have to TELL people you're fucking cool Skymama «narrative»This thread will lock in 3..2.. What a load of narrow-minded Xenophobic Bullshit!-squeak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites