sunshine 2 #26 May 13, 2008 I got mine direct deposited into my checking account last week. Then yesterday i got a letter from the IRS saying my check was on the way. Hrm...maybe i'm getting 2 stimulus checks cause i'm just so damn cool. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #27 May 15, 2008 Quote Quote I got $600... probably due to that extravagant paycheck I get from uncle sam twice a month. You too, huh?Yea, I just got a notice saying I should get it by 16 May. I'll take whatever they wanna give me (back). Got a notice today saying I should get it within 3 weeks of when I received the notice. I got it about a week ago.Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #28 June 7, 2008 You did better than me and my wife, we got $0. But that is becuase we rich war mongering evil conservatives. To the people that got some back enjoy mine and other money. Oh and maybe yours to. Little fact 60% of Americans dont pay any federel income tax. The top 5% of wage earners in the U.S. pay 59.5% of all federal income taxes. But we are not paying our fare share. Keep dreaming. Think about it. Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 2 #29 June 7, 2008 Quote Little fact 60% of Americans dont pay any federel income tax. The top 5% of wage earners in the U.S. pay 59.5% of all federal income taxes... Do you have a legitimate source or did you pull it out of your ass? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #30 June 7, 2008 That was staight out of my ass, did it smell ok???? It is fact check it out..... Tell me if im wrong, cuase im not.......actually the botom 50% pay 3 % of taxes, the othe 10% (of 60% that dont pay any taxes) are in the top 50 %. http://www.american.com/archive/2007/november-december-magazine-contents/guess-who-really-pays-the-taxesNothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 2 #31 June 7, 2008 Nothing against you, I'm just very skeptical when it comes to numbers without quoting source. because like 97% of those are straight out of people's asses... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #32 June 7, 2008 QuoteQuote Little fact 60% of Americans dont pay any federel income tax. The top 5% of wage earners in the U.S. pay 59.5% of all federal income taxes... Do you have a legitimate source or did you pull it out of your ass? Straight from the IRS.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 June 7, 2008 Quote Nothing against you, I'm just very skeptical when it comes to numbers without quoting source. because like 97% of those are straight out of people's asses... Including yours? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 2 #34 June 7, 2008 of course, that was intended I think i found something on the IRS site. You were wrong, top 5% actually pay 59.67% not 59.5% ok, ok, I found the source and you were right. added: Where did you find that 60% don't pay any income taxes? This number seems very big Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #35 June 7, 2008 I dont say anything i dont know!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do pay alot of peoples taxesI dont know how i laught about being screwd.,....... It is fact, makes you wonder about all the tragety pimps that make others think that they have it bad Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #36 June 7, 2008 Actually the web add. i found off hand said less than that, but i promise im not lieing Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #37 June 7, 2008 I dont have the exact source at my finger tips but look at the web add. that i put on previous post it state that the top 25% pay 85 % of taxes You figure it out from there. But 60% paying 0% is pretty acurateNothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davadikian 1 #38 June 7, 2008 Quote Little fact 60% of Americans dont pay any federel income tax. Not even close to being a factBut... So is your implication that someone who makes soo little money that dont pay any taxes has it good? Their living high on the hog I guess... And IF you make soo little you dont pay any taxes image how tough it would be to pay for gas to get to that job that pays you soo little you dont pay any taxes. And gas is just one of the "flat taxes" that we all pay evenly, but to a private company instead of the government. With rising fuel/food/clothing/service costs and foreclosures at a new height the majority of the stimulus package is going directly into the pockets of big businesses. With the hope they will make more money and with the extra revenue the will cut their prices back and "trickle down" the money back to us the consumer. Im sure theyll do the right thing. Even if your assertion were true, we have had 7 straight years +/- of right wing, blank check, "rich war mongering evil conservative" economics running the country and things arent benefiting you??? Take some responsibility please. The last time the jobless rate was this high was when another wrecking ball economy guy was in office what was his name??? Hint it was 1986. 70% of the top 2% in wealth in the US get their income from stock, bond, real estate investments so they pay 15% in taxes on the money they make. And their costs of living are considered business expenses which are subsequently tax write-offs. Im not making this up my brother is an investments broker its how he lives. News flash, the rich in this country arent struggling, just greedy, and hey if you want to keep more of your money then work within the system to get it, its available to you. You just have to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and work for it, just dont be lazy and expect the government to just give it to you... And onto SC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #39 June 7, 2008 Quote Quote Little fact 60% of Americans dont pay any federel income tax. Not even close to being a fact True, it's actually only about 50%.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davadikian 1 #40 June 7, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Little fact 60% of Americans dont pay any federel income tax. Not even close to being a fact True, it's actually only about 50%. EVERYBODY pays, you can question how much, I like to also question to who. The consumer/taxpayer ultimately pays for everything, the government/business owner passes on any and all costs (plus additional profits in the case of the business owner) to us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #41 June 7, 2008 Quote Quote Little fact 60% of Americans dont pay any federel income tax. Not even close to being a factBut... So is your implication that someone who makes soo little money that dont pay any taxes has it good? Their living high on the hog I guess... And IF you make soo little you dont pay any taxes image how tough it would be to pay for gas to get to that job that pays you soo little you dont pay any taxes. And gas is just one of the "flat taxes" that we all pay evenly, but to a private company instead of the government. With rising fuel/food/clothing/service costs and foreclosures at a new height the majority of the stimulus package is going directly into the pockets of big businesses. With the hope they will make more money and with the extra revenue the will cut their prices back and "trickle down" the money back to us the consumer. Im sure theyll do the right thing. Even if your assertion were true, we have had 7 straight years +/- of right wing, blank check, "rich war mongering evil conservative" economics running the country and things arent benefiting you??? Take some responsibility please. The last time the jobless rate was this high was when another wrecking ball economy guy was in office what was his name??? Hint it was 1986. 70% of the top 2% in wealth in the US get their income from stock, bond, real estate investments so they pay 15% in taxes on the money they make. And their costs of living are considered business expenses which are subsequently tax write-offs. Im not making this up my brother is an investments broker its how he lives. News flash, the rich in this country arent struggling, just greedy, and hey if you want to keep more of your money then work within the system to get it, its available to you. You just have to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and work for it, just dont be lazy and expect the government to just give it to you... And onto SC ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////// You need to check your "facts" What i said is true. I was stating federal taxes. ////////////////////////////////////// And gas is just one of the "flat taxes" that we all pay evenly, but to a private company instead of the government /////////////////////////////////////// U.S. does not have a flat TAX. ITS CALLED a sales tax. We pay the % evenly but i promise i pay more than you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! //////////////////////////////////////////////////// And their costs of living are considered business expenses which are subsequently tax write-offs. Im not making this up my brother is an investments broker its how he lives. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Cost of living IS NOT A BUIS. EXPENCE!!!!!!!!! If that is what your brother says he is not telling you the truth. PERIOD!!!!!!!!. He must also be lying to the IRS. //////////////////////////////////////// the majority of the stimulus package is going directly into the pockets of big businesses. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Try agian...... i am a small buis. and i am not getting nothing..... i promise big buis. is not either...........have you ever read how the stimuless pacage is distributed??????? /////////////////////////////////////////////// going directly into the pockets of big businesses. With the hope they will make more money and with the extra revenue the will cut their prices back and "trickle down" the money back to us the consumer. Im sure theyll do the right thing. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Well with your lack of buis. nolige i will school you for a secound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most jobs are produced by small Buisneses...... and since we are not making more money we will not hire new people...... thats ok congress and the president have figured it out, give the lower class more money to get elected. Just keep thinking you are right and keep elcting who you elect and you will get the same results.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #42 June 7, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Little fact 60% of Americans dont pay any federel income tax. Not even close to being a fact True, it's actually only about 50%. ////////////////////////////////////////////// Thank you sir for correcting me. Im just a conservative bigot.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #43 June 7, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Little fact 60% of Americans dont pay any federel income tax. Not even close to being a fact True, it's actually only about 50%. EVERYBODY pays, you can question how much, I like to also question to who. The consumer/taxpayer ultimately pays for everything, the government/business owner passes on any and all costs (plus additional profits in the case of the business owner) to us. We are referring to income tax in this discussion and not sales tax, thank you. It is a fact that roughly 50% do not have any income tax liability.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #44 June 7, 2008 EVERYBODY pays, you can question how much, I like to also question to who /////////////////////////////////// The small buis. owner pays. and does not always pass it on.. /////////////////////////////////////////////////\ business owner passes on any and all costs (plus additional profits in the case of the business owner) to us. ////////////////////////////////////////////////// Incorrect. go get you a buis, and learn what the real world has to offer............... i have contracts with people i can not change, for at least a nother year but ohh yea im raking it in with the current gas and supply prices........................Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davadikian 1 #45 June 7, 2008 1. I clearly said it was a flat tax that is paid to big business not to the government, I didnt say anything about a flat tax in the US, and it was a play on words. 2. I didnt vote for the last 8 years we have experienced you did, by your own admission. 3. When incorporated, you absolutely can write-off clothes some meals, and other cost for you to operate as expenses, and no-one is cheating anyone its working within the IRS guidelines. 3. How can you "promise" me anything that you pay more than me, you dont know me, what i do, how much I make... 4. I said big business, you said small business, on that we agree. Small business in this country needs help, but you arent getting it from your boys in the White House now. Oh, and I doubt you would "school" me in business... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davadikian 1 #46 June 7, 2008 QuoteIncorrect. go get you a buis, and learn what the real world has to offer............... i have contracts with people i can not change, for at least a nother year but ohh yea im raking it in with the current gas and supply prices........................ Again Im talking big business. I am incorporated and own a business however it isnt my sole source of income. Rising gas prices are effecting everyone and most business are passing their additional expenses onto their customers. The additional fuel costs are the new "price of doing business". Thats what my lawn guy said when he raised his rates. I am sorry you are in the position you are in with your contracts, no I dont think its right and I think our government HAS failed you as a small business owner. But I do resent the notion that people who make less money that you have it easier that you, like they're getting a free ride. Hopefully things will take an upturn. Marathon Oil (just one of three companies) owns property in ND "the Bakken formation" and are cleared to drill, however they have been for some time. The Bakken Formation is supposed to be a 100 bill barrel + reserve. Hopefully they will get it on, but I fear they will drag their feet. Gosh why would they drill now, pump more oil and increase production, that would mean a lower market price, less profit for more work. That wouldnt make much business sense, but we can hope. Kiplinger did a good report on the size of it and what Marathon oil might do with it and when, but at this point its all speculation... I personally think we should move towards alternative energy but that is long term solution, and people want/need some relief now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #47 June 7, 2008 Quote 1. I clearly said it was a flat tax that is paid to big business not to the government, I didnt say anything about a flat tax in the US, and it was a play on words. //////// So can you inform me as to which tax big buis. is paid ??? /////////////// 2. I didnt vote for the last 8 years we have experienced you did, by your own admission. ///////////////// If you didnt vote then dont coment on the outcome. ///////////////////// 3. When incorporated, you absolutely can write-off clothes some meals, and other cost for you to operate as expenses, and no-one is cheating anyone its working within the IRS guidelines. //////////////////// Only buis. clothes can be writen off (which is very limited). Even Buis meals are only a 50 % write-off, but normal buis.cost are beductiable,but dont act as if all expences are deductable. //////////////////////////// 3. How can you "promise" me anything that you pay more than me, you dont know me, what i do, how much I make... //////////////////////////////// If you were a small buis. owner and maid GOOD money you would not have the opinion you have, you would KNOW you pay more than your fair share! ///////////////////////////// 4. I said big business, you said small business, on that we agree. Small business in this country needs help, but you arent getting it from your boys in the White House now. /////////////////////////// Nor am i getting it from your boys in congress! ///////////////////////////////////// Oh, and I doubt you would "school" me in business... ////////////////////////////////////// Let me know when you are ready for school!!!!!!!!!!!!Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #48 June 7, 2008 Hopefully they will get it on, but I fear they will drag their feet. Gosh why would they drill now, pump more oil and increase production, that would mean a lower market price, less profit for more work You are missing the point. They cant drill now becuase of all the government BS that is holding them up.... do you not think they would love to get more oil out of the ground at current prices???? Talk to the liberal enviromentalist about the energy regulations..............Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davadikian 1 #49 June 7, 2008 Quote You are missing the point. They cant drill now becuase of all the government BS that is holding them up.... do you not think they would love to get more oil out of the ground at current prices???? Talk to the liberal enviromentalist about the energy regulations.............. This simply isnt true! Its what makes you comfortable so you have the evil environmentalist to blame but it isnt true, do some research. Not Rush Limbaugh, research. They CAN drill! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #50 June 7, 2008 QuoteQuote You are missing the point. They cant drill now becuase of all the government BS that is holding them up.... do you not think they would love to get more oil out of the ground at current prices???? Talk to the liberal enviromentalist about the energy regulations.............. This simply isnt true! Its what makes you comfortable so you have the evil environmentalist to blame but it isnt true, do some research. Not Rush Limbaugh, research. They CAN drill! I dont like Rush or Orielly so try agian. So your saying they can drill in Alaska or off shore that easy???? Wrong agian. The enviromentalist are the reason the epa and gov. have such stiff regulations.. I own an eviromental company and invest in oil and gas wells so you may want to find a differant subject to argue about.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
