airtwardo 7 #26 February 9, 2008 Quote Thanks but seriously I can squash the kid myself.Bobbi Where do ya get in line for THAT?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #27 February 9, 2008 LOL!! After I am done with him maybe I could take a swing or two at the parents, verbally of course. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #28 February 9, 2008 We just heard from one of the other kids that ride the bus that the older kid (16yrs old) hit my son as hard as he could and then slammed the side of his head up against the window as hard as he could. Wherever my son sits this older kids kicks the kid that is sitting behind my son on the bus out of his seat and sits behind my son and torments him. The school policy is to find evassive action and not fight back, no wonder kids are going "postal" at school these days. Sadly I can see my son getting to that point if we (his parents) don't do somehing about this. Me thinks a visit to his parents are in order. If you don't hear from me later on tomorrow afternoon someone bake me a cake with a file in it and send it to the county jail. This could get ugly 'cause apprently the apple doesn't fall to far from the tree. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #29 February 9, 2008 Bobbi, This is assault and battery. I think you should press charges and have the kids arrested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #30 February 9, 2008 You have cops friends with Kingsland still right? Call them up, scare the shit out of that kid... If Ginas still there she handles the school patrol. Come on girl use your contacts and kick some ass Its assault, personally I would call and press charges right now. Then again thats because we deal with bullys to and Kyles at a breaking point. End it as soon as possible, theres anti bully laws there and if charges are pressed, they will supeona the tapes, and at his age he could go to juvie. And if he were to continue the harrassment fight to get him expelled, kids have a right to a public education without harrasement.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #31 February 9, 2008 Yes that is the plan. We will let the school handle it on Monday if they do not kick the kids off the school bus for the rest of the school year then we will go with local enforcement. I highly doubt that the school will come thru on this so that is why we are prepared to step in come Monday afternoon. Bad thing about it is that we find this out on Friday afternoon. We have to be patient and wait. Bob knows the father of the 16 yr old and does ALOT of business with the company this guy works for, he is prepared to make this guys life a living hell. He wants to go down to the house now but I am holding him back, he is too angry at this point and him getting hurt or arrested will not help the situation. As much as we would like to beat the shit out of him and the father we can't. Bob knows alot of people and alot of people know Bob, he needs to keep his nose clean and we need to go thru the proper channels, but if we ever meet them in the street on even ground that will be the end of it. I feel very bad for my son. i told him that if anything else happens he needs to let us know now and not wait and put up with this shit for weeks on end until he can't take it any more. Slamming his head up against the window...damn..he could have really been hurt..... We told him that if he wants to go after the other kid we would not be angry. He could come home with two black eyes and a broken nose, he could lose the fight, but the other kid would never know what hit him because he is not expecting my son to fight back. We told him that the neighborhood is fair game. We told him that all he had to do was tackle him and get him down and he could use any part of his body to hurt this kid. Mainly a smack from my son's fore head to the kids nose would do the trick. My son is afraid that he can't take him. He has sparred with his father for fun he has tackled me for fun and he has pushed me across the wooden floor in socks. My kid COULD take this kid! He throws a mean punch! I told my son to use the anger and the frustration that he feels towards the situation as fuel to beat this kids ass. The kid needs it and my son needs to do this so he can gain his confidence back. Bobbi A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rygon 0 #32 February 9, 2008 The way i see it is that your kid has done the right thing..he has walked away and told the teacher (via you). Now that teacher has not done anything except told him to tell a teacher again shows they have no control over the situation. Definately file a complaint against the school for not handleing it properly, and maybe the police. Also make a diary when you have spokent to the school/teachers and if possible get the to sign it. This way if your kid has to defend himself it will show that you and him have done all you could to stop this bullying peacefully. Martial arts is a great way of going about it as it will prepare your kid physically and mentally whilst keeping him fit. I go kickboxing which i find great as i can and have used it against others (normally groups as they dont like fighting on their own) ...got punched a few times but have come out of it alive and still pretty good. Martial arts also shows me when i should fight or when i should run. look into MMA, BJJ, wrestling, kickboxing, and boxing (try http://subfighter.com for some info) Also make sure your kid knows that if he is going to hit someone then make sure he does a good job of it...a single punch is most probably going to infuriate the opponent...get him on his arse unable to fight back then it shows everyone that the bully has lost Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 130 #33 February 9, 2008 you may have to force the school system to enforce their own rules, yea that sux but most of these folks are plain idiots, i have dealt with this before you have to go full out from the start, document everything in writing and with pictures, send the letter to the proper person assigned to handle these things (sounds like the asst. principal) then copy that persons boss - the principal, then copy the principals boss - school superintendent - then each person on the school board and the cops, the letter must be professional, state the facts and state what you expect to be done this will force them to deal with it the bad thing is that the offending kid most likely is getting beat at home or has other big problems that are showing up thru attacks on your son, hard as it is try and have some understanding and mercy on the kid, but still push for what you needGive one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #34 February 9, 2008 QuoteI started in martial arts when I was 13. It really taught me and helped me deal with similar situations. People didn't pick on me, that was due to the self confidence (I believe), I didn't get into fights because it taught me self control. Never mind it was fun and I made some good friends at the dojo. Its important to know it is ok to fight back, it not ok to allow yourself to be a victim. Its also not ok to assault people and its many times better to simply talk the situation down or just walk away. People have made good money teaching "verbal judo" to different professions. Think of it along those lines. As for the assaults I'm concerned that the bus driver hasn't noticed anything. Furthermore, I would definitely bring it to the school administrators as well as the SROs. QFT. Martial Arts teaches self defense and discipline.. when/if the fight cannot be avoided and you completely fuck up the bully you tend to get avoided from there on out... being a military brat i was often the 'new kid' that was tested.. putting a couple of football players out for the season due to wrist and foot injuries meant i was pretty much left alone... (and meant many ongoing fights stopped when i dived in to protect my friends.) The key is to make sure he learns the real lessons of martial arts, you dont train to start fights, you train to prevent them and to protect yourself (and your friends/family) when they do occur. suspensions are rather petty punishments and wont set him back much at all if he is a decent student.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rygon 0 #35 February 9, 2008 yeah i found that if you go to a proper martial artsd centre you will learn the lesson that it is just for self defence. These places where you can pick up a black belt within 2 years (many of them whom are under the age of 10) are there just for the money and there own egos. I went to one and it was basically the intructer showing how hard and fast he could kick/punch etc, and this was the lesson most of him students were learning from. My new place is more about getting the most out of yourself and working with each other Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #36 February 9, 2008 "suspensions are rather petty punishments and wont set him back much at all if he is a decent student. " We would like to get the older kid, and the one that is doing the most damage, suspended off the bus for the rest of the school year/ let his parents be inconvineinced for awhile. We are seriously considering legal action agianst him also because we have found out that the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree and that the father doesn't do squat when it comes to fixing the problem (there have been three kids targeted by this kid). Maybe a lawsuit might wake him up to step up to the plate and do something about his son and the situations that he is casuing. I don't care what home life this kid has, if his father isn't maning up and being a father and teaching him right from wrong, the "village" will. Martial arts maybe the way to go for my son. Its something to consider. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #37 February 9, 2008 Duck then punch the armpit followed by a punch to the soliplexus, followed by a punch to the chin. Your son won't get beaten on again after that.Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #38 February 9, 2008 Quote why is it always the small kids are always the loudest and seem to be the bullies? Bobbi I call it the Chiuahah (sp) syndrome. If you ever see a yard where there are two dogs in it one being a Chiuahah and the other a much larger dog you will typically find that the larger dog is just being quiet most of the thime whereas the smaller dog will be barking his head offDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #39 February 9, 2008 Quote Quote why is it always the small kids are always the loudest and seem to be the bullies? Bobbi I call it the Chiuahah (sp) syndrome. If you ever see a yard where there are two dogs in it one being a Chiuahah and the other a much larger dog you will typically find that the larger dog is just being quiet most of the thime whereas the smaller dog will be barking his head off "Nepoleon complex" bro Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #40 February 9, 2008 Hey Bobbi, not that it matters - but I wanted to chime in & say that I agree with most everybody else; you shold certainly pursue legal action! Both kid & his [incompetent (to say the least!)] parents ill hopefully learn from it. I commend you though... on being able to stay calm & cool throughout this whole ordeal, because if that was my kid I'd be in jail right now. Pretty sure that's nothing to be proud of, but I consider family very sacred & I would do anything for them. Too bad people don't consider the true value of when I say "I consider you like family"... But that's a whole other thing.Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gato 0 #41 February 9, 2008 Martial arts training is a good idea - but there isn't enough time right now for him to learn what he needs to handle this bully. Here's a radical suggestion: The three of you (Mother, Father, Son) trot down to the neighbor kid's house with 2 pairs of boxing gloves on saturday morning (during the bully's cartoon time). Have your son openly challenge the bully to a fight in your backyard. My dad did this with me when I was 6, and the two of us kids just wailed on each other for about 10 minutes. We never fought again. The fact that your son is younger, your husband is the father's boss, and that all your cards are on the table may be a bit of a wake-up call for them. Plus, the embarassment of other neighbors observing may get the bully into more hot water with his parents. Just my .02. I DID eventually get martial arts training in the 3rd grade, and like others here, it did a world of good. Avoid aggressive, brutal styles, though. Think Aikido, Ju Jitsu, or Wing Chun. Good mental and physical stuff in those.T.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #42 February 9, 2008 Think Aikido, Ju Jitsu, or Wing Chun. Quote Think Louisville Slugger. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gato 0 #43 February 9, 2008 Quote Think Louisville Slugger. You're such a gentle soul, Airtwardo. T.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #44 February 9, 2008 Quote Think Aikido, Ju Jitsu, or Wing Chun. Quote Think Louisville Slugger. I like these . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #45 February 9, 2008 "Bring forth the LERPA" ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #46 February 9, 2008 Quote "Bring forth the LERPA" You remember when those were state of the art, don't you?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #47 February 9, 2008 Quote Quote "Bring forth the LERPA" You remember when those were state of the art, don't you? Actually...it's from the future, Mr. Spock was pretty handy with one! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #48 February 9, 2008 Quote Quote Quote "Bring forth the LERPA" You remember when those were state of the art, don't you? Actually...it's from the future, Mr. Spock was pretty handy with one! The future is the past . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #49 February 9, 2008 The future is the past . . . . . . when yer drivin' backwards really really FAST! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #50 February 9, 2008 Quote The future is the past . . . . . . when yer drivin' backwards really really FAST! You don't need to drive fast, dude . . . just eat the right herbs and spices.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
