Indiana Jones 4

[AggieDave 6]

Not bad. All in all it was an enjoyable flick, even if it was predictable. Incredibly predictable. It will be great to watch on the USA network on a rainy Saturday afternoon in a couple of years.

Beyond that I wouldn't spend the money to see it in the theater. Luckily I had scored a couple of free tickets from a buddy, so I was only out the $89 for a hotdog and a Dr. Pepper.

It really really bugged me that a modern HD Evo soft tail was used instead of a good period bike running a knuckle head or a pan head. That would have made more since then the Evo with disc brakes. Just about as bad as that '32 roadster with what looked like a Chevy 350 motor. This was set in 1957, a buick or a lincoln block would have been more appropriate if a flathead wasn't used.

Those couple of things really really bugged me the entire movie, but all in all it was still enjoyable.

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yond that I wouldn't spend the money to see it in the theater

I havw free ticketrs to see it monday evening

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Thought it was a lot of fun, even if there were some pretty big goofs, and I've very glad they didn't wreck that Buick in the car/bike chase!

Worth the $8 IMO.

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[MichaelMoore 0]

It was a good movie. Not a great movie though.

I've all but forgotten about it and I only watched it a few hours ago.

[PhreeZone 20]

The opening scene was my favorite part of the movie. I was expecting them to look for the Arc and then when they ran into it I was laughing about it. The movie was good, not near as epic as Raiders was but about on par with Temple of Doom.

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[Peej 0]

It starts here today, i'm super keen to see it.

Did they make any reference to Indy supposedly being immortal after drinking from the cup of Christ in Crusade?

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[PhreeZone 20]

Nope. The Holy Grail was only to provide immortal powers to those who continued to drink from it. They did include references to Marcus Brody and Henry Jones Sr. though. The last scene sets up another movie almost perfectly.

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[Tuna-Salad 0]

Dumb question.. Was Harrison Ford in the new one? I remember him quoting he wouldnt do another indiana jones after return of the crusade.. but bush also says the economy is fine.. so i guess u cant believe everything u hear

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Dumb question.. Was Harrison Ford in the new one? I remember him quoting he wouldnt do another indiana jones after return of the crusade.. but bush also says the economy is fine.. so i guess u cant believe everything u hear

No, he's not in it. Jack Black plays the lead role.

[BillyVance 34]

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Nope. The Holy Grail was only to provide immortal powers to those who continued to drink from it. They did include references to Marcus Brody and Henry Jones Sr. though. The last scene sets up another movie almost perfectly.

IIRC, the knight standing guard over the grail in part 3 told Indiana that the price of immortality was taking the cup past the great seal successfully.

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Harrison Ford returns as Dr Henry Jones Jr. There are a few other returning faces also in the movie.

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[BillyVance 34]

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Harrison Ford returns as Dr Henry Jones Jr. There are a few other returning faces also in the movie.

Yep, Karen Jones from the first movie, for one...

She was a lot of fun in that movie. Would drink you under the table and smash a bottle over your head if she didn't like you.

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Nope. The Holy Grail was only to provide immortal powers to those who continued to drink from it. They did include references to Marcus Brody and Henry Jones Sr. though. The last scene sets up another movie almost perfectly.

Hmmm, I thought the conditional on that was that the powers of immortality and the cup couldn't leave the sanctuary of the temple. At least that's what the knight says to Indy.

As for the last part of the movie "almost perfectly" setting up another movie . . . I swear I'm going over to Spielberg's house and punching him in the nose if that LaBeouf kid EVER takes over the franchise.

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Yep, Karen Jones from the first movie, for one...

Karen ALLEN.

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Yep, Karen Jones from the first movie, for one...

Karen ALLEN.

Oops, you're right.

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[PhreeZone 20]

Lucas was the one that wrote this one, you could see his influnce in the entire movie. I personally think the set up they tried to do would be enough to kill off the franchise. Ford has probally 1 more Indiana Jones film in him and then I see this franchise ending. No one else can carry the reins of the part like Ford can.

And the "almost perfect" setup is not a good thing in my opinion. No one should be allowed to carry on this role.

The knights words were" "But the grail can not pass beyond the great seal. That is the boundry and the price for immortality"

I assumed you had to keep drinking from it to remain immortal since the 2 brothers that had left 550 years earlier had died of old age once they had left and were no longer drinking from it.

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Watched it last night, the wife and I had 2 free tickets.

It was a very enjoyable movie with a lot of the original "campy" style of the 1st. I didnt feel ripped off at all

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Watched it last night, the wife and I had 2 free tickets.

It was a very enjoyable movie with a lot of the original "campy" style of the 1st. I didnt feel ripped off at all

You didn't feel ripped off? You had free tickets! Does that mean it wasn't good enough that you would pay for it but since it was free it was OK? Maybe I'll wait for it to come out on DVD and borrow it from the library so I can see it for free then too.

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

Terrible movie all around. One of the biggest shams I've seen in years. You can tell it's a mish mash of scripts that span the 20 years. It's an insult to the fans.

I wrote up nearly 100 reasons why the movie sucks, maybe once spoiler time passes I will post them. (Why doesn't this site has a /spoiler bookend?)

I hope George Lucas never does another movie again.

I've never walked out of a movie but the opening sequence alone nearly caused me to do so.

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people who get that up tight over an Indiana Jone movie have some serious issues





Val, I would not have felt ripped off if i had paid for the tickets either, both my wife an I enjoyed it for what it was.
Escapism, and fantastical adventure. If you are a "TREKY" type like ChasingBlue you may not enjoy it.

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COOL!!!!!

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people who get that up tight over an Indiana Jone movie have some serious issues


Val, I would not have felt ripped off if i had paid for the tickets either, both my wife an I enjoyed it for what it was.
Escapism, and fantastical adventure. If you are a "TREKY" type like ChasingBlue you may not enjoy it.

Treky type? Meh, not at all. I'm a fan of movies and film and it was part of my college studies. I also live in a family with two actors and one documentary producer and I help them out all the time. I just know a piece of shit when I see it. And I don't get sucked in to like it just because it shares the title with three very classic movies. At least it wasn't JarJar and The Phantom Menace. I think the only reason this wasn't a complete steaming pile of shit was because of Harrison Ford. Nation Treasure 1 and 2 did a better job at Indy Jones than this movie did. There wasn't anything as classic or iconic as the first three, there was no real plot, the story never felt like it cared about the tale it was trying to spin....it was just another setup for more special effects, poor lighting and an obvious sound stage setting. The exposition was boring and dull and felt like they were trying to make the "Divinci Code" audience happy.

If your read this:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/05/two-new-indiana-jones-tv-spots-harrison-ford-implies-that-george-lucas-wacky-ideas-are-stupid

Harrison Ford rips into Lucas a bit. It took 20 years to make these movies because Lucas wanted them to be more like the groundhog/JarJar type of "comedy."


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Here is a short list of what was wrong with this movie




1) An opening that didn't do anything to help the movie. We had a race with some kids and it was a direct nod to American Graffiti. If you look at the first three each of them had a small little story that we joined in media res. This did nothing for the movie and then bam, Jones is stuck in the back of a trunk. Ya, that really matches outrunning a boulder or trying to catch a vial of antidote. Most of the Young Indy Jones Chronicles had better openings. After 20 years that's how they felt it was the best way to reintroduce us to the character? Epic failure there.
2) Apparently the most secretive base with some of the most deadliest weapons in all of the USA has 3 guards.
3) The gun powder best shows how illogical the plot device is. If gun powder and gold are pulled to the skulls, why aren't the nails, lights, roof, or other crate contents pulled to the Alien body in it's storage spot. And really, they moth balled an organic creature??
4)Dumb bad guys with no personality. Only Kate's character talked and the guy from Saving Private Ryan just stood there looking like he had gas. All previous movies went into some depth with several of the bad guys. As to their intelligence: they can't look over the only hill of dirt in the middle of a vast area to find him by the rocket (and what the fuck was the point of that rocket ride)? From there we get a fucking quick cut that jumps a large amount of time (middle of night to mid morning) and somehow they are still looking for him with only one car, and why are they even looking for him....they didn't look for him around the rocket, why go all the way to that town?
5) And what the fuck was up with the gophers. Are they supposed to be representative of the audience? If not they are 100% pointless and wasted time on film and editing time. The worst part is that this was all done in post production and they felt it needed to be added.
6) NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS ARE NOT FUNNY. He already set the tone of the movie in the very late 50s, we didn't need to see an explosion, or a flying refrigerator. Plus he likes to makes movies for kids, so congrats on giving nightmare imagery to every kid this weekend. Who knows, maybe it's because I grew up in the cold war and can remember things like "The Morning After" and the media hype it caused. But this just ruined so much for me.......and it led to them passing on some of the best parts of the back story (Colonel Jones).
7) College Town. There's a great chase scene in there. However the obligatory "Indy in an academic location setting up the plot" was disengaging, and half the notions were a lark anyway.
8) Crazy Guy. Seriously what was the point? Its like he was out of a bad Goonies script.
9) Turncoat Guy. Now I'm bad. Now I'm good. Nuh uh I'm bad again. No really I'm good. Okay. Why should we care about this guy again? I get that he was supposed to be an old WWII buddy of Indy's, but he isn't made endearing to the audience at all.
10) Conquistador tomb. Hi, we're Peruvian ninjas who hide in walls. There's only like two of us, so punch us in the face, continue on, and forget trying to think of why we were even there trying to pump kick you in the face.
11) Forest vehicle chase. Should be classic and easy Indy material, right? It was mildly entertaining, but didn't draw you in anywhere near as well as an Egyptian car chase, an Indian mine car ride, or a Mesopotamian tank battle. Also, what the fuck, Tarzan and attack monkeys? The only good part about it was the killer ants and the waterfall...but where did Karen Allen go for the entire race along the cliff? She goes off screen for the full thing (and the stupid monkeys) and comes in towards the end of the ant scene. But at least we had an America's Funniest Video moment of Mutt getting hit in the balls a dozen times (that was worth the 20 year wait, right?)

Also when I saw the ending I said out loud: You know it's bad when they have to rip off the X-Files movie ending. Outside of that it was some of the worst editing I've ever seen. It wasn't logical and did nothing to help with the pacing of the movie nor help understand location. Because of that John Williams had nothing he could do and his musical themes were fully absent during the entire film.


Also, did anyone else see some of the same story lines related to abandoned kids and a quick rush into love/marriage across Episodes 1-3 and this? I think Lucas is fleshing out his personal baggage in his movies

Part of the problem with Lucas is that he went from trying to emulate the teachings of Joseph Campbell to everything needing to be about the "MacGuffin."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin

Also, Indy Jones worked best when it tipped it's hat to the classics. This entire movie believes its 20 years of press and doesn't do anything to feel like those older films.

The nod of maybe passing the torch to Mutt Williams at the end felt forced and unnecessary. Combined with Lucas saying he wants to do a 5th where Indy plays a roll like Connery did in 3? Fuck that. I watched these movies because of Harrison Ford nailing that character. It would be like Shia trying to fill in the shoes of John Wayne or Clint Eastwood in any of their legendary rolls.

Just let a good thing die. Don't make a 5th!

And what was with Indy calling himself Henry the entire movie? Is that supposed to make him feel all grown up? The man was in his 40s in the last movie and was still going by Indy.

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[beowulf 1]

I thought it was one of the most boring movies I had ever seen. 20 years and this is the best story they could come up with?! I left the theatre wanting my money back.

[rehmwa 2]

Meh - I could have waited for the DVD to rent. I wouldn't own it. I didn't see anything that I hadn't seen in a bunch of other movies.

I really expected more. I and III were so good, so I hoped they found the formula again after II was so horrible.

But good to kill a couple hours if it's raining.

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