Bodyflight.Net 0 #1 March 5, 2008 Watching a Ghost Hunters Marathon which inspired the question. I certainly do! As in the living-on-the-same-plane-spiritual-energy-some-people-can-see-them-and-talk-to-them kinda ghosts.. the ones who haven't yet moved on to the "next" plane of existence.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 March 5, 2008 I've only seen them on TV with the paranormal investigation programs. I'd really like to see or feel something paranormal just to be sure. I wonder if a spirit can talk to me in my mind rather than through my ears? Or am I just schizophrenic? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #3 March 5, 2008 Yes I do.... and my theories behind it are quit whacked... so I wont share it... not in the mood to open any more worm cans.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #4 March 5, 2008 I completely understand! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 March 5, 2008 Quote I wonder if a spirit can talk to me in my mind rather than through my ears? Hearing voices in your head?Don't worry, they can be very reassuring, once you get used to them."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 March 5, 2008 Nope.... but I hear voices..... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #7 March 5, 2008 No. The ghosts/spirits that people see or hear can be explained by other physical factors.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #8 March 5, 2008 I don't believe in any kind of spirits other than the ones I can buy in a bottle. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #9 March 5, 2008 Yes, and I have personal experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #10 March 5, 2008 QuoteNo. The ghosts/spirits that people see or hear can be explained by other physical factors. How would you explain a 6 and a 12 year old seeing someone in the backyard they have never met, seen, or been told about, but could descirbe what he looked like and was buried wearing to a "t"? Or, a 2-3 year old (not sure his age) talking to "himself" in his room regualrly and able to point out a picture of his dead uncle and say his name, when no one has told him about the uncle? I'm honestly curious as to what other physical factors could explain it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharimcm 0 #11 March 5, 2008 I used to not, but when I was 17, I had reasons to change my mind. So, yes... I do believe there are ghosts/spirits among us. "I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #12 March 5, 2008 I think there's a lot going on around us (and in our heads) that we still know nothing about, but that doesn't make it supernatural. It's just natural stuff we don't understand yet. I don't see any evidence that people continue to haunt this world after they're dead - and I'm not sure whether I find that idea creepy or comforting. But there are an awful lot of charlatans making an awful lot of money out of our fascination with this kind of thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #13 March 5, 2008 there will ALWAYS be non-believers, and we have to respect their views if we ever hope to have them respect ours, no matter the topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #14 March 5, 2008 Quote there will ALWAYS be non-believers, and we have to respect their views if we ever hope to have them respect ours, no matter the topic. I respect a non-believer's views. I would just like to hear the explainations for which she discredits believers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #15 March 5, 2008 Quote Quote there will ALWAYS be non-believers, and we have to respect their views if we ever hope to have them respect ours, no matter the topic. I respect a non-believer's views. I would just like to hear the explainations for which she discredits believers. I would too. Or spend a night at the Eastern State Penitentiary or Magnolia Lane Plantation, for example, and then tell us if there were anything that couldn't be explained."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #16 March 5, 2008 Why yes. I believe that Gary Gaygax has unfinished business, and will return to show us all the next RPG Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicGuy 0 #17 March 5, 2008 Sure do. A couple of the guys on Ghost Hunters are friends of mine. I've heard some of their stories and they are just too weird to not believe. Plus, I've had a couple really strange things happen around me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #18 March 5, 2008 QuoteHow would you explain a 6 and a 12 year old seeing someone in the backyard they have never met, seen, or been told about, but could descirbe what he looked like and was buried wearing to a "t"? It's generally classified as "anecdotal evidence." Just because a person doesn't think a 6 year old didn't hear information about Aunt Mildred doesn't mean that they didn't pick up info about her from somewhere. Also, people tend to remember the hits and forget the misses. For every 6 year old that happens to get the color of dress right, there are 100 6 year olds that get it wrong. Other explanations can be things like waking dreams (which I've had and are extremely vivid) or lying. Most other things people associate with spirits (voices, lights, sounds) can be associated with other physical factors. If some sort of scientific evidence could be shown for ghosts/spirits, I would be open to the possibility. However, with nothing but anecdotal evidence to support it, it seems implausible.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #19 March 5, 2008 Quote How would you explain a 6 and a 12 year old seeing someone in the backyard they have never met, seen, or been told about, but could descirbe what he looked like and was buried wearing to a "t"? Or, a 2-3 year old (not sure his age) talking to "himself" in his room regualrly and able to point out a picture of his dead uncle and say his name, when no one has told him about the uncle? I'm honestly curious as to what other physical factors could explain it. Not sure about the first one, except that it is possible for something like that to be a coincidence - there could have been someone with a strong resemblance to the deceased, and dressed the same way. As unlikely as that may seem, is it really more likely that somebody would be hanging around the back yard after they're dead, and wearing the clothes they were buried in? As for the second, that relies on the absolute certainty that nobody had ever mentioned the uncle. People have bad memories. And kids do talk to themselves all the time. Not trying to be difficult - I just think that the desire to believe in ghosts is very strong for a lot of people, especially those who've lost loved ones, and we find it easy to persuade ourselves of things that support our desires. The more we tell the story, the more little details we subconsciously add to make it more compelling. I'm also in a sceptical frame of mind because I just finished reading Derren Brown's book, 'Tricks of the Mind'. He presents some really good arguments about how it's in our nature to mislead ourselves, and how easily the way we see the world can be manipulated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #20 March 5, 2008 I think it's great that you would be open to the possibility. We often find it difficult to prove things we don't understand or can't see, but so far, we have a good track record of developing technology that will enable us to do just that. I site references such as microscopic bacteria & viruses all the way to galaxies & black holes and I expect aliens someday. Where there is a will, there seems to always be a way, given enough time (and often $$$) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #21 March 5, 2008 Vallerina, you beat me to it. Maybe we've been reading the same book! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamsam 0 #22 March 5, 2008 Quote If some sort of scientific evidence could be shown for ghosts/spirits, I would be open to the possibility. However, with nothing but anecdotal evidence to support it, it seems implausible. Slightly off topic (but not really, as everything is connected haha). There is plenty more than anecdotal evidence for paranormal abilities. The military know this and have been studying it for years and healers have been shown to remotely alter matter (bacteria, beyond statistical significance). Western dogma means the evidence generally gets ignored, (too much of a mind-fuck)If you wish to find it (evidence), a certain degree of being 'open' to it might be necessary first. Hope this helps but what do I know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilDevil 2 #23 March 5, 2008 and reencarnation ( I prolly spelled that wrong )``````````````````````````````````` " Cant keep a good woman down " Angels have wings, but devils can fly ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #24 March 5, 2008 Quoteand reencarnation ( I prolly spelled that wrong ) That could be Genetic memory..... except for the loonies that say that they "remember" previous deaths, because that's not logical. If memories are passed down the generations, they could only be passed at the time of conception (for fathers memories) and Birth (for mothers memories) so you could never remember a death. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #25 March 5, 2008 In my mind, I split ghosts and spirits into two compeletely different entities. I'm not sure how to define what a ghost is, ie. Being caught between 2 worlds. I think of spirits as anyone who has died and gone on to the other side. If I was to see my best friend, I would say I've seen his spirit. With that said, I do believe in both from personal experience. That's where I'll end this as it could make the thread go in all sorts of directions. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites