docdialtone 0 #1 April 25, 2008 I know I'm going to get a lot of comments about how I should learn to pack and I know that and I'm learning. I have a demo 190 Saber 2 from PD, last weekend I had one of the regular packers pack it for me the 1st time and it opened and flew great, I think I might have to get one of these! After that jump, there was still only 1 packer at the DZ and she said she was too busy with the staff to pack for me, no problem so I asked one of the experienced guys to help me at least get it in the bag which he did no problem. I stowed the lines and put it in the container, when I opened I had line twist, kicked out and all was good, I know it was probably my fault. Here's where the problem starts. The guy that had helped before was now packing for a few other people and said he didn't mind packing for me, so I set the breaks and cocked the pilot chute and said thanks. I signed up for the last load, as luck would have it never happened because there wasn't enough jumpers. I paid said packer $15 for 1 and 1/2 pack jobs and had a few beers. (yes they were from the case I bought) PD has a really cool packing video online so I downloaded it and decided to practice packing here at home tonight. Moved the furniture around and opened the pack job. Hmmmmm slider is about 4" from the stops, that probably would have hurt. Looked some more and one of the breaks wasn't set. Hmmmmm again....looked some more and the pilot chute wasn't cocked!!! Now I'm pissed!!! I get along very well with this guy but now I just want to break his fuckin nose!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GogglesnTeeth 6 #2 April 25, 2008 And that ladies and gentlemen is why I always pack for myself. If I have a crappy opening, or a great one, I always know who to thank! Goggles and Teeth "You fall like a greased safe!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #3 April 25, 2008 Quoteso I set the breaks and cocked the pilot chute QuoteLooked some more and one of the breaks wasn't set. Hmmmmm again....looked some more and the pilot chute wasn't cocked!! Umm...so he decided to unstow a brake and uncock your pilot chute? And how did you open the main? Did you perhaps pull the hackey on the pilot chute? You do realize that could've uncocked the pilot chute... QuoteHmmmmm slider is about 4" from the stops, that probably would have hurt The slider could've moved when you took the canopy out, doesn't mean he packed it that way. You pay your money, you take your chances. If you don't like his packing style, don't use him anymore. Simple really.... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #4 April 25, 2008 My packer said she'd beat me if I went to anyone else.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #5 April 25, 2008 Quote My packer said she'd beat me if I went to anyone else She prolly will too!! Your packer is a crazy biotch!! ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #6 April 25, 2008 Quote Quote so I set the breaks and cocked the pilot chute Quote Looked some more and one of the breaks wasn't set. Hmmmmm again....looked some more and the pilot chute wasn't cocked!! Im glad I wasnt the only one who saw that..... Hi Sunny....Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #7 April 25, 2008 Quote She prolly will too!! Your packer is a crazy biotch!! I'm scared. Hold me.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #8 April 25, 2008 I kinda like it here between you 2 .... Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #9 April 25, 2008 Quote Quote She prolly will too!! Your packer is a crazy biotch!! I'm scared. Hold me. Oh you two get a room already _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #10 April 25, 2008 Quote Oh you two get a room alread last time we did that, val ended up wearing my bikini top on her head and barging into a girl scout meeting in her underwear. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #11 April 25, 2008 Quote Quote Oh you two get a room alread last time we did that, val ended up wearing my bikini top on her head and barging into a girl scout meeting in her underwear. ROTFLMAO!!!!! ...and I'm SURE there are pics of THAT _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #12 April 25, 2008 I know not what you all speak of. To the OP, maybe your packer is like mine and thinks that you like it rough?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 April 25, 2008 My rules when using packers: 1) "You pays your money, you takes your chances." 2) ALWAYS set your own brakes. I set my brakes before I ever let go of the toggles anyway, as it prevents twists in the brake lines which reduces wear and tear. My advice to you would be to note those things on a piece of paper so you don't forget, and mention them calmly to the guy who packed for you. How much experience does the guy have? ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #14 April 25, 2008 Quote My packer said she'd beat me if I went to anyone else. Sounds fun. Can I piss off your packer? Wanna do it together? ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #15 April 25, 2008 Quote so I set the breaks Correctly? Maybe you didn't quite pull the "loop in which you stow the toggle" (cat's eye) through the small metal ring? Did you check your brake setting? This is very easy: Set your brake and stow the excess brake line. Simply grab the steering line somewhere above the riser and yank it sharply. If nothing happens you're good to go."That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #16 April 25, 2008 If you cannot pack a canopy after 30 jumps... and you also have an A license,,, find a sport where your life does not depend on someone making sure you have a canopy over your head after an uneventful freefall. Learn to do it yourself and quite fucking complaining about it. Pack your own shit or go sit on a couch. Tired of hearing people complain about crap that they, themselves, are completly responsible for. You want to skydive? Take some freaking resposibility and learn the damn ropes or go fucking bowling instead."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #17 April 25, 2008 Quote Sounds fun. Can I piss off your packer? Wanna do it together? Me thinks her packer likes that idea.... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeG 0 #18 April 25, 2008 QuoteIf you cannot pack a canopy after 30 jumps... and you also have an A license,,, find a sport where your life does not depend on someone making sure you have a canopy over your head after an uneventful freefall. Learn to do it yourself and quite fucking complaining about it. Pack your own shit or go sit on a couch. Tired of hearing people complain about crap that they, themselves, are completly responsible for. You want to skydive? Take some freaking resposibility and learn the damn ropes or go fucking bowling instead. Very direct but true. I did my packing practice on a slippery canopy... no better way to learn it proper (with a lot of cursing). I am not allowed to pack my own jumps yet, but I practice in between on not needed canopies, so that I am proficient. I would prefer jumping my own packjobs after I get my license....if something goes wrong, nobody else to blame then me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #19 April 25, 2008 I've always packed for myself, with the only exceptions being when I was a big way organizer who needed to spend time in the video room reviewing the jump video while the rest of the jumpers packed up."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #20 April 25, 2008 Pack for yourself: "You get out what you put in" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #21 April 25, 2008 You likely popped half that stuff when you opened the pack job. Packers usually do ok. BUT learn to pack learn to spot learn all the basic piece parts of your gear and how and WHY they work learn how to assemble your gear and to inspect it all this in addition to air awareness, stability, how to fly at least as a beginner, etc..... get it all done before you hit another 30 jumps (or at least have a plan to do it all in next 100 or so) - mmmkay? It's not that hard and every jumper should be able to do those and a lot more before calling himself a skydiver - being a 'casual tourist' in this sport isn't healthy for you or those around you BTW - the tone of your note sounds like you are on the right track and want to learn all this stuff.....good for you ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #22 April 25, 2008 Quote Now I'm pissed!!! I get along very well with this guy but now I just want to break his fuckin nose!!!! You pay for the pack job - not the opening.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #23 April 25, 2008 Quote Quote If you cannot pack a canopy after 30 jumps... and you also have an A license,,, find a sport where your life does not depend on someone making sure you have a canopy over your head after an uneventful freefall. Learn to do it yourself and quite fucking complaining about it. Pack your own shit or go sit on a couch. Tired of hearing people complain about crap that they, themselves, are completly responsible for. You want to skydive? Take some freaking resposibility and learn the damn ropes or go fucking bowling instead. Very direct but true. I did my packing practice on a slippery canopy... no better way to learn it proper (with a lot of cursing). I am not allowed to pack my own jumps yet, but I practice in between on not needed canopies, so that I am proficient. I would prefer jumping my own packjobs after I get my license....if something goes wrong, nobody else to blame then me. I believe you have to pack your own canopy to get a license. I jumped my first pack job on a 4000' H&P (talk about having faith in you gear) and in doing so was able to sign off 2 things on my A proficiency card. Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattMazzocco 0 #24 April 25, 2008 I dont prefer to pack. We have 2 very good packers at my dz, i wont let someone i dont know well pack for me. While i do know how to pack, i prefer jumping while im at the dz, plus packing is tiring. I would much rather set down the gear in the packing room and run outside and smoke a cig and chat with other jumpers. I have had a few weird openings, but in all honesty i cant wait for my first cutaway. Now if i was able to get out there more often and jump more, i would probably pack for myself but when you can only squeeze in 3 or 4 jumps a week, id prefer to spend my time in the air, and hanging out. Not packing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #25 April 25, 2008 QuoteI've always packed for myself, with the only exceptions being when I was a big way organizer who needed to spend time in the video room reviewing the jump video while the rest of the jumpers packed up. Was this back when you used to jump?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
