SuperGirl 0 #1 March 27, 2008 Consider this scenario: You just accepted a job offer with employer X. The pay is ok but not great, but you like X and the place. You just moved there, got a place to stay, all that good stuff. Now employer Y just gives you this other job offer that pays twice, makes you get twice that experience, and the place is just as nice but with even cheaper housing. But you JUST accepted the job with X... and they're relying on you... Do you tell employer X to suck it and go for the job with Y? Is it unethical? Will it kick you in the butt in the long run? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #2 March 27, 2008 you are in the job market for YOU, they will hire someone, explain you case say thabks for the opportunity and Hasta la vistaYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #3 March 27, 2008 You can always approach Job X and tell them that you recieved a counter offer from Job Y making more money and see if job X will match it... Ive done that before and it worked in my favor... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllisonH 0 #4 March 27, 2008 I think that might depend on what field you're in. Is it a small world kind of field where everyone knows everyone else and you'll get a reputation due to that decision? Or is it a big anonymous field where the company you're leaving will be pissed but you'll never need to work with them again or ask for referencecs? In my field it would be a very bad decision that would follow me around for a long time, but I can see how in many other fields it wouldn't be a big deal. Which category does your career fit into? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperGirl 0 #5 March 27, 2008 that's the thing... it's the small community type.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #6 March 27, 2008 Quote that's the thing... it's the small community type.. I would agree with telling company X about the counter-offer and see what they say. I'd try NOT to tell them who company Y is.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllisonH 0 #7 March 27, 2008 Quotethat's the thing... it's the small community type.. In that case, yeah, I think it would be ok to tell them about the counter-offer (though you would have had more leverage if you hadn't already accepted the job), but don't just disappear. It would probably be ok in the short term, but not work out so well in the long term. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 March 27, 2008 Be honest and up front with both companies. Double check both job offers, Terms and Conditions, Pros & Cons. Make the decsion based upon your needs. As Mr Squeak suggests.... Look after #1 (you). (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitch 0 #9 March 27, 2008 How stable are the companies? Not including the money factor, which employer offers the best benefits, work environment, perks, and stability? Money isn't everything... especially if you find yourself working someplace that you hate because of one reason or another. This being said... there's a couple of important questions you have to ask yourself: Which is closest to the DZ you want to jump at? Which would be more agreeable to you taking a long lunch to squeeze in a load or two? I don't see it as unethical at all. Your looking out for numero uno... Afterall, nobody else will. Handle yourself professionally and it shouldn't bite you in the ass later on... Take the advice from the previous posters and you'll be fine... 2x the pay and less housing expenses... having trouble figuring out what the problem is. Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lauraliscious 0 #10 March 27, 2008 Did employer X pay for your move? Or did you move on your own? If they paid, I'd see where it could be a problem... Enemiga Rodriguez, PMS #369, OrFun #25, Team Dirty Sanchez #116, Pelt Head #29, Muff #4091 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #11 March 27, 2008 Be up front with company X, but don't mention the money - mention the additional amount of experience/responsibility you expect to get with company Y. Presenting it as a career growth opportunity you're having a tough time turning down will look a lot better than saying "hey these guys are going to pay me a lot more." See if it's possible that company X can match that; once you've discussed that, then you could discuss how an additional level of responsibility might need to come with an additional salary. Being honest and up front and mature at this point in your career can pay dividends down the road. Not showing up or just saying "I'm not taking the job" will just make you look unreliable and irresponsible."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hudsonderek 0 #12 March 27, 2008 company X is a flight school, while company Y is flying for a DZ. don't let you're jumping bias get in the way of your opinion ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhatter 0 #13 March 27, 2008 I declined on a job offer a while back because I had someting else in the pipeline. Wine industry in SA is also a VERY small community. End of the day the company I was working for merged with the co that made me the offer. I ended doing the job I was offered without the 40% increase I could've had... Lesson learnt: WIIFM! Must admit I've now started my own business(es). Man I miss getting a paycheck at the end of the month!A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! D.S # 125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taylor.freefall 0 #14 March 27, 2008 I didn't bother reading through all the posts but what's to think about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #15 March 27, 2008 Quote Must admit I've now started my own business(es). Man I miss getting a paycheck at the end of the month! There's nothing stopping you from you (LLC) hiring you (personally) as an employee, withholding taxes, giving you a steady paycheck at the end of the month, and in many states laying yourself off to collect unemployment if work gets slow. The situation also has tax advantages. For example, after you've paid yourself a reasonable salary (based on what it would cost for some one else to do the work, which could be some one with half the seniority and experience you have) everything left over is a profit distributed to the business owners as a dividend, only subject to your personal income tax rate and not employee+employers shares of FICA + medicare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites