Shotgun 1 #26 March 11, 2008 QuoteYou will be liable for anonymous posts - a Kentucky based user could file a police report if he/she reads an anonymous posting. The Kentucky courts will fine you (if you don't show up in person to defend yourself). I think website operators would just find a way to block all IP addresses that might originate from KY. (Assuming such a law would pass, which it won't.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirrz 0 #27 March 11, 2008 QuoteQuoteFirst, as a "website operator", am I supposed to background check everyone that wants to register?? If the Kentucky law passes, then possibly. You will be liable for anonymous posts - a Kentucky based user could file a police report if he/she reads an anonymous posting. The Kentucky courts will fine you It's true. I studied a case about media law at uni last year in which it was ruled that the place where the website originated (or I guess the post was made) is irrelevant, if it is viewed in a place in which it is breaking the law then it is upheld as having broken that law... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #28 March 11, 2008 Quote Quote Quote First, as a "website operator", am I supposed to background check everyone that wants to register?? If the Kentucky law passes, then possibly. You will be liable for anonymous posts - a Kentucky based user could file a police report if he/she reads an anonymous posting. The Kentucky courts will fine you It's true. I studied a case about media law at uni last year in which it was ruled that the place where the website originated (or I guess the post was made) is irrelevant, if it is viewed in a place in which it is breaking the law then it is upheld as having broken that law... Seems like a great way to send kentuky back to the stone age... Just block all users originating from Kentuky and you've solved your problem.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #29 March 11, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteFirst, as a "website operator", am I supposed to background check everyone that wants to register?? If the Kentucky law passes, then possibly. You will be liable for anonymous posts - a Kentucky based user could file a police report if he/she reads an anonymous posting. The Kentucky courts will fine you It's true. I studied a case about media law at uni last year in which it was ruled that the place where the website originated (or I guess the post was made) is irrelevant, if it is viewed in a place in which it is breaking the law then it is upheld as having broken that law... This may well be true but the corporation that hosts this site will never be present in Kentucky to answer to the law. If it is in fact not protected by incorporation the summons to appear in Kentucky court must be legally served (as I understand it) within the jurisdiction of the court. So unless that happened Sangiro could not be convicted in absentia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #30 March 11, 2008 I found a few other Kentucky Laws in the same league as this one: Kentucky statute says: "No female shall appear in a bathing suit on any highway within this state unless she is escorted by at least two officers or unless she be armed with a club." Later, an amendment proposed: "The provisions of this statute shall not apply to any female weighing less than sixty pounds nor exceeding 200 pounds; nor shall it apply to female horses." In Lexington, Kentucky, it's illegal to carry an ice cream cone in your pocket. Frankfort, Kentucky, makes it against the law to shoot off a policeman's tie. I know for a fact that there's not a website operator on the planet who doesn't go to bed at night worried sick about what law they're passing in Kentucky tomorrow. Quote Thought experiment: If this bill becomes law, do we all still believe that websites are "someone's house"? Could a law requiring all homeowners to identify guests pass? If not, why is a website different? Though experiment: Umm... oooh look! Something shiny! Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMcLean 0 #31 March 11, 2008 Quotebut the corporation that hosts this site Corporation? So this is definitely a business then? So I'm not crazy when I point out that we are "customers" not "guests"?It wouldn't hurt you to think like a fucking serial killer every once in a while - just for the sake of prevention Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #32 March 11, 2008 Quote Corporation? So this is definitely a business then? So I'm not crazy when I point out that we are "customers" not "guests"? If ever there was a dead horse... People who but advertising on this site are customers. Have you ever paid for anything on here? So the answer is yes, you are crazy. Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #33 March 11, 2008 Quote Quote Corporation? So this is definitely a business then? So I'm not crazy when I point out that we are "customers" not "guests"? If ever there was a dead horse... People who but advertising on this site are customers. Have you ever paid for anything on here? So the answer is yes, you are crazy. This buting you speak of is it like HEADbutting, or like But....ingYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #34 March 12, 2008 If people have a problem with this place why dont they just fuck off? Serious question. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #35 March 12, 2008 Quote If people have a problem with this place why dont they just fuck off? Serious question. i just asked a similar Q in a different threadYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMcLean 0 #36 March 12, 2008 Maybe because they remember the old day and/or care about what happens?It wouldn't hurt you to think like a fucking serial killer every once in a while - just for the sake of prevention Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #37 March 12, 2008 I also remember the old day as many of us do. I just dont keep moaning about it and making the problems worse. Look at you, you are getting under HH's skin and you say that you care what happens to this community? If you cared you would not be going on and on about it as it is not getting you anywhere. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMcLean 0 #38 March 12, 2008 I've participated in less than 5 threads on the subject in the past year (the decline period). How exactly is that "going on and on"? Additionally, how do you figure that the community being silent, with collective heads in the sand, is a good thing? And who are you to tell me what I would do or not do if I cared?It wouldn't hurt you to think like a fucking serial killer every once in a while - just for the sake of prevention Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #39 March 12, 2008 QuoteI've participated in less than 5 threads on the subject in the past year (the decline period). How exactly is that "going on and on"? Additionally, how do you figure that the community being silent, with collective heads in the sand, is a good thing? And who are you to tell me what I would do or not do if I cared? well, you seem to have no problems telling HH and the mods how to do their jobs...tit for tat.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #40 March 12, 2008 Nobody is being silent. The owner has said how he wants things and that is that. The running of this site is up to him. if you have a problem send him a pm. If you want to voice your opinion on it in the forums the fact is your opinion does not count on the subject as the only opinion that counts is his. So what is it you have a problem with? Why does your problem mean the owner should change how he wants things? Anyway Mike, good luck with whatever it is you want. I dont want to argue with you. I just think people who have a problem with these forums and how they are run should just leave and let the rest of the community who are happy to participate the way the owner would like things to continue doing that. I dont have a problem with you Mike, I dont even know you. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMcLean 0 #41 March 12, 2008 Quotewell, you seem to have no problems telling HH and the mods how to do their jobs...tit for tat. Umm, no. I have pointed out some truths in the legal and economic environment that surround running a community driven website. From those I have extrapolated (a very few) suggestions. That's it. Discussion is healthy, that's it.It wouldn't hurt you to think like a fucking serial killer every once in a while - just for the sake of prevention Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #42 March 12, 2008 Sorry MIke. I got you wrong. Just sick of hearing people moaning when it is not a democracy. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #43 March 12, 2008 QuoteQuotewell, you seem to have no problems telling HH and the mods how to do their jobs...tit for tat. Umm, no. I have pointed out some truths in the legal and economic environment that surround running a community driven website. From those I have extrapolated (a very few) suggestions. That's it. Discussion is healthy, that's it.Labouring a point to the extent of flogging a dead horse is not healthy or productive. the site owner has heard your opinion several times and has OVERTLY told you that he has a different point of view. HH is the owner or co owner of several sites, which from what i can see are ALL productive, so he may (just may) have a clue about what he is trying to do. If how ever you are proven correct and this all goes the way of the Dodo i an certain that most here will continue to liveYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #44 March 12, 2008 This is from the same state that is suing a city over a rock? Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #45 March 12, 2008 Quote kinda like marriage laws, the commitmeng is null when you're out of the country? ZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIING Stalking laws don't apply either evidently.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #46 March 12, 2008 Quote Quote kinda like marriage laws, the commitmeng is null when you're out of the country? ZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIING Stalking laws don't apply either evidently. No, but I really wish you'd tone it down some...my coworkers are starting to talk... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #47 March 12, 2008 QuoteI have pointed out some truths in the legal and economic environment that surround running a community driven website. Can you name a single "truth" that you pointed out? I dealt with each and every "truth" that you posted in detail in another thread and you never replied.Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #48 March 12, 2008 Quote If ever there was a dead horse... People who but advertising on this site are customers. Have you ever paid for anything on here? So the answer is yes, you are crazy. So, how about those people who pay for a premium membership? Are they customers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #49 March 12, 2008 QuoteSo, how about those people who pay for a premium membership? Are they customers? Insofar as the services that they pay for are concerned, absolutely.Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
