leapdog 0 #1 March 6, 2006 I was wondering if anyone haas heard of an FAA publication called the Parachute Riggers Handbook? There was a number that started with FAA- I can't remember the number, and it was in the upper right hand corner of the front of the book. It also had a DOT symbol printed on it. I saw this book on the hanger floor at Sebastian this past weekend and thumbed through for brief moment, it looked as if it had plenty of good info in it. I've done searches on PIA, DOT, and FAA websites and all I find is the examiners handbook. This book I saw wasn't meant for examiners. It was more like Poynter's manuals but condensed to one book and only modern civilian gear. I have the Poynter's manuals, but I'm curious as to getting a better look at this book or maybe obtaining a copy. Yeah, Yeah I know I should have written down the number. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #2 March 6, 2006 Last week a longtime friend in the industry gave me the publication number and website where one can supposedly download it from. The link is broken, and I have searched high and low on both the cavernous FAA website and Google to no avail. I emailed the FAA Airmen Certification branch to ask them how I can gain access to it. Of course, I have not heard from them yet. Once I get a reply confirming the publication number and giving me a solid link for download, I will post it as a sticky here in this forum. Meanwhile, maybe Terry Urban can give us more details on the document's download status?Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leapdog 0 #3 March 6, 2006 I was just told by email that the author is Sandy Reid. Maybe that will jog someones memory. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leapdog 0 #4 March 6, 2006 QuoteLast week a longtime friend in the industry gave me the publication number and website where one can supposedly download it from. The link is broken, and I have searched high and low on both the cavernous FAA website and Google to no avail. I emailed the FAA Airmen Certification branch to ask them how I can gain access to it. Of course, I have not heard from them yet. Once I get a reply confirming the publication number and giving me a solid link for download, I will post it as a sticky here in this forum. Meanwhile, maybe Terry Urban can give us more details on the document's download status? Do you have the publication number? I have been emailing with Dave Dewolfe on the subject. That is how I got the authors name. If I sent him the pub number maybe he can get somewhere. he's pretty tight with the FAA up there in P.A. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #5 March 6, 2006 The publication number is FAA-H-8083-17, title: "Parachute Rigger Handbook." Paperback bound copies were produced in very small quantities for limited distribution. Once I find the source for download, I'll post it here.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leapdog 0 #6 March 6, 2006 Just sent to Dewolfe. If he finds out anything before you get post here, then I will post here also. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #7 March 6, 2006 I'm told that the document has been uploaded to the FAA website, and they are troubleshooting the broken link issue. Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #8 March 6, 2006 QuoteI'm told that the document has been uploaded to the FAA website, and they are troubleshooting the broken link issue. Oh, they'll be all over that Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leapdog 0 #9 March 6, 2006 QuoteI'm told that the document has been uploaded to the FAA website, and they are troubleshooting the broken link issue. So what is the link? So when it gets fixed we can all put high traffic on it and break it again. I'de also like to send it to Dewolfe to let him know he can stop harrassing the FSDO in PA about it. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #10 March 6, 2006 QuoteSo what is the link? I'm not going to post a broken link . . .Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #11 March 6, 2006 The document was contracted for by the FAA. It went to Sandy, as I understand it through a intermediary. Sandy's been writing this for a year or two. In January he had a hard copy, although I don't think it was the final published form. Ed Scott at USPA had started downloading it but it was so big that he stopped. Chris Needles had the first few pages with him. It is an FAA document, not a PIA document, so won't be on the PIA website. I've been scouring the net for it too. Not only the FAA site but the Government Publishing Office. Can't find it anywhere. Or even a broken link to it. In January Sandy didn't know either. I was going to post about it here when ever I found it. As I understand each FISO or some other set of FAA offices was going to get a hard copy. As I understand it it is meant to be a reference for their inspectors as well as riggers, so don't be surprised if sometime soon they start referencing it. If you care to PM me the broken link then at least I'll know where it's supposed to be.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #12 March 6, 2006 QuoteI was just told by email that the author is Sandy Reid. Maybe that will jog someones memory. I have heard of 8082-15a, Parachute Rigger Knowledge Test Guide, FAA-S-8081-25, Parachute Rigger Practical Test Standards and 8010.5J, Parachute Rigger Examiner Handbook but have not seen a “Parachute Rigger Handbook”. But I did hear from someone,??, that Sandy was writing one. If anyone comes up with a source I would like to get one. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leapdog 0 #13 March 6, 2006 QuoteIf you care to PM me the broken link then at least I'll know where it's supposed to be. I would also like to know where it is supposed to be. Could I also have a PM of the link? I would have the slightest idea why any of this information would be a big secret. So far I have had to ask for each and every detail on the subject. I think it should have been offered without being asked for in the first place. Aren't we a community that is supposed tohelp each other? Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #14 March 6, 2006 QuoteI would have the slightest idea why any of this information would be a big secret. So far I have had to ask for each and every detail on the subject. I think it should have been offered without being asked for in the first place. I do not have the document. I do not have access to the document. I am busting my ass via email and over the phone to get my hands on the document itself or the download link. I'm sorry that's not good enough, but it's the best I can do for now. When I get solid information, I will post it. I PM'd you the broken link - good luck with that.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #15 March 6, 2006 Sparky, It is a done deal. I've seen it too. But we can't find it on line. LET'S BLAME USPA! Ed Scott started downloading it from somewhere but stopped because it was so big.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #16 March 6, 2006 QuoteEd Scott started downloading it from somewhere but stopped because it was so big. Once I get the source, I plan to download it at about 0300 from a T1 line at work. Once I get it on a thumb drive or CD, I can more easily share it.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #17 March 6, 2006 QuoteLET'S BLAME USPA!I say let's blame it on John because clearly he is not frustrated or trying hard enough. Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #18 March 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteEd Scott started downloading it from somewhere but stopped because it was so big. Once I get the source, I plan to download it at about 0300 from a T1 line at work. Once I get it on a thumb drive or CD, I can more easily share it. OK! First what the hell is "0300 from a T1 line", and what is a "thumb drive"? Is Booth or PD coming out with something new? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #19 March 6, 2006 It's the new millenium version of two soup cans and a piece of string & a stone tablet and chisel. 0300 is 3:00 A.M. for you civilians. Less traffic that time of day will make for a faster download.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darnknit 0 #20 March 6, 2006 Quote OK! First what the hell is "0300 from a T1 line", and what is a "thumb drive"? Is Booth or PD coming out with something new? i don't know, i just hope they test them for snag points pulling is cool. keep it in the skin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leapdog 0 #21 March 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteI would have the slightest idea why any of this information would be a big secret. So far I have had to ask for each and every detail on the subject. I think it should have been offered without being asked for in the first place. I do not have the document. I do not have access to the document. I am busting my ass via email and over the phone to get my hands on the document itself or the download link. I'm sorry that's not good enough, but it's the best I can do for now. When I get solid information, I will post it. I PM'd you the broken link - good luck with that. MstSgt- I wasn't trying to be ugly or start anything. I didn't realize that you were typing so much to the FAA that your ass was busted. I didn't say you had access to the Document. I didn't say you had the document. In my original post, I didn't directly ask "what was the pub number?" "who was the author?" "Does anyone know where to get it?" Or any other information leading to the whereabouts of this manual. I assumed that rigging was a small enough community without egos and that info of any kind wouldn't have to be asked for and would be readily shared without a second thought. Even if it does lead to a dead end road for now. For all of that I apologize. Thanks for the PM. Luck has nothing to do with it. Gunnery Sergeant Of Marines. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #22 March 6, 2006 QuoteIt's the new millenium version of two soup cans and a piece of string & a stone tablet and chisel. 0300 is 3:00 A.M. for you civilians. Less traffic that time of day will make for a faster download. I knew that, ya I knew that. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #23 March 6, 2006 I'm looking at a copy right now. It appears to have a lot of good and current info in it, along with numerous clear color photos. FAA-H-8083-17 is the number in the upper right hand corner. You may be able to get a copy through your local FSDO; the FAA guy for my area recently dropped a copy off to my b/f who is a master rigger at a local loft. On a purely trivial note, Amy von Novak (who posts here as amy and is married to billvon) is pictured several times flaking a round canopy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #24 March 7, 2006 QuoteI'm looking at a copy right now. It appears to have a lot of good and current info in it, along with numerous clear color photos. FAA-H-8083-17 is the number in the upper right hand corner. You may be able to get a copy through your local FSDO; the FAA guy for my area recently dropped a copy off to my b/f who is a master rigger at a local loft. On a purely trivial note, Amy von Novak (who posts here as amy and is married to billvon) is pictured several times flaking a round canopy... ______________________________________ Is that to say, if us riggers wait long enough, the FAA will bring a copy to us? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soignet 0 #25 March 7, 2006 I Got a copy put in my locker at work (I am a Air Traffic Controller). I went down to my Training specialist to find out where he got it and told me that the FAA sent him Two of them and Figured since I Jump i would want one. I don't know why we got one at our TRACON but we did. He is going to find out if we are required to have one in the faciality if not he will give me the other one too. For those who want a copy call your local FAA facility and ask if they have any extra copies they will probably give it to you. I did not know Sandy wrote it that would explain all the Talon's and Voodoo's in the pictures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
