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Let me get straight to the point here, folks. I've been doing fixed foot posts in 5-20 degree weather for about 8-10 hrs which means I'm not moving around much to stay warm. Basically, my feet and hands suffer the most so I did a quick research and found these products below.

I've already wasted about $60 on windproof gloves that were too bulky and on two pairs of 40 degree below socks which didn't do crap for my frozen feet. Therefore, I am prepared to go the expensive route.

I know quite a few of you here hunt and your activity is usually low to stay stealth and what not so I figured you would probably know best. Let me know what you think of these products or feel free to suggest other products as well. Thanks in advance! :)
Sealskinz Gloves

Under armour glove liner

Sealskinz Socks

Thermax Socks

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Do you wear the socks by themselves, or in layers?

When in real cold condittions, I always layer socks. A good pair of liner socks (and if you are not moving around much and not sweating, plain old cotton may work, but a decent polypro sock would be OK) and a tick wool sock on top of that. Maybe sure your boots are big enough to still be confy with those on, since if they are too tight, they will slow down blood flow and make you colder.

By the way, what do you mean by "I've been doing fixed foot posts "?
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I used to be stationed in AK and I can tell you how I would stay warm.

Gloves:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/standard-pod.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat470076-cat601367_TGP&rid=&indexId=cat601367&navAction=push&masterpathid=&navCount=4&parentType=index&parentId=cat601367&id=0048210

Feet:
Wear a regular pair of cotton socks and wear these over them:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0033528812407a&navCount=7&podId=0033528812407&parentId=cat601708&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat470076-cat601708&catalogCode=UH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601708&hasJS=true

As for the rest of your body, just use about 3-4 thin layers. You want to be able to shed layers as needed and I've found 3-4 gives you some latitude with shedding vs. retaining heat. Also, try to keep busy doing stuff esp. with your hands and feet (ie. walking around working with hands etc..). Hope this helps.
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i have NO expensive NAMEBRAND goretex or under armour etc etc.... My feet stay warm with ONE pair of cotton socks with uninsukated type boots and if needed I will wear a pair of rubber boots (5 buckles) over my work boots! My body is protected by a FEW layers of shirts. I typically will wear a turtleneck as one of the layers! gloves are finew for me but MITTENS are the best for peeps that have cold blood and get colder quiker than normal....

Protect yr extremities and yr core parts and yr head and you should be "good to go"...

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For your feet (at least) you don't want cotton if it's that cold - it'll hold moisture instead of wicking it away. Wool is king in that regard - it helps wick moisture away and retains most of it's insulating properties even if it gets wet.

Bring a spare pair of socks to change into, partway through the day - it makes a huge difference.
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Maybe sure your boots are big enough to still be confy with those on, since if they are too tight, they will slow down blood flow and make you colder.



I always make sure I have a tad bit more room in my boots for wearing double socks.

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By the way, what do you mean by "I've been doing fixed foot posts "?



A fixed foot post means no car. You're on your feet all day and you cannot leave your post. Basically, you have to keep watch on your post for us to show omnipresence.

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I haven't tried the gloves but I will definitely give it a shot. I used to wear 3 layers of socks and my feet would still freeze. My boots just suck in the cold. However, I have to wear regulation boots. Unfortunately, they're not really ideal for cold climate weather.

My body is not the problem. I use expedition weight base layers. The problem is I need gloves that retain heat, that are not bulky and will not restrict movement on my hands. Unfortunately, when we have fixed posts there's really not much movement or walking around that you can do. Thanks for the tip though.

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wool sounds like it could be a possible plan. Thanks.

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Bring a spare pair of socks to change into, partway through the day - it makes a huge difference.



Unfortunately, I can't bring an extra pair of socks with me on duty. I can't go elsewhere to change into new socks anyhow because I am on a fixed post.

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wool sounds like it could be a possible plan. Thanks.

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Bring a spare pair of socks to change into, partway through the day - it makes a huge difference.



Unfortunately, I can't bring an extra pair of socks with me on duty. I can't go elsewhere to change into new socks anyhow because I am on a fixed post.



Ouch - In that case, I'd recommend something like silk or goretex sock liners, then 100% wool socks over them. Make sure you've got enough room left in the boots to be able to wiggle your toes...
Mike
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Bring a spare pair of socks to change into, partway through the day - it makes a huge difference.



You do NOT know the meaning of joy until you've been cold, wet, and close to hypothermic for five days and find a clean dry pair of wool socks in a ziploc bag whilst digging around in the bottom of your rucksack. :D
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Bring a spare pair of socks to change into, partway through the day - it makes a huge difference.



You do NOT know the meaning of joy until you've been cold, wet, and close to hypothermic for five days and find a clean dry pair of wool socks in a ziploc bag whilst digging around in the bottom of your rucksack. :D


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When I work outside in the winter (which I do alot) I wear a pair of panty hose, OR a pair of silk shorts that hit me mid thigh under my pants. I wear a good pair of socks over the panty hose, and then my logging boots, which are not lined. But what I learned from spending a month on the Appalacian trail is when your feet are cold, put on a GOOD hat. Not ear muffs. 80 % of your body heat leaves your body from the top of your head.
I frequently wear a llama wool scarf under my fur hood. I rarely get cold.
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