Agressive Driving...

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Out of town, open motorway, good weather... who am I being agressive to?

I think you're interpreting my comment about aggressive driving as being the equivalent of "offensively aggressive" driving, which I don't mean at all. Driving fast can be fun and I think some people are more equipped than others to drive quickly and do so safely. But on the whole, at least here in the U.S., even people who are going over the speed limit on an open highway still probably aren't traveling at a sustained speed of over 100. So, relatively speaking, that speed would be aggressive in comparison to my sweet little old mother, who, I can most definitely assure you, would be following the 55 mph speed limit with great precision. I'm not saying that being aggressive is the equivalent of being bad or, even necessarily inappropriate. It CAN be, but doesn't have to be. Anyway, I think you know what I mean.

TPM Sister #102

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Out of town, open motorway, good weather... who am I being agressive to?

I think you're interpreting my comment about aggressive driving as being the equivalent of "offensively aggressive" driving, which I don't mean at all. Driving fast can be fun and I think some people are more equipped than others to drive quickly and do so safely. But on the whole, at least here in the U.S., even people who are going over the speed limit on an open highway still probably aren't traveling at a sustained speed of over 100. So, relatively speaking, that speed would be aggressive in comparison to my sweet little old mother, who, I can most definitely assure you, would be following the 55 mph speed limit with great precision. I'm not saying that being aggressive is the equivalent of being bad or, even necessarily inappropriate. It CAN be, but doesn't have to be. Anyway, I think you know what I mean.

You really do sound like a lawyer...oh wait, that's right - you are a lawyer.

Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself -

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I can't help it. Just shake your head and move on. . . .

TPM Sister #102

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Anyway, I think you know what I mean.

I did, but I like to play

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Anyway, I think you know what I mean.

I did, but I like to play

I KNEW IT!!!!! (Let's see, where's that list of dz.commers not to trust. . . .)

TPM Sister #102

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Muenkel 0]

I used to be a speed demon. I purposely would own cars that can perform (mostly Acuras). I took a lot of stupid chances IMO. I was lucky to have only received 1 speeding ticket. Even though my current car can do 100+ without hesitation, I now drive very conservatively. I am almost always within 5-10mph of the speed limit. Once in a great while, I like to open it up; but only for a short period of time and in really safe conditons. I just don't want to be responsible for hurting anyone. Either that, or I'm a really old fart now.

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Chris

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The official speed limit on SA freeways is 75mph (120km/h), but most people are usually cruising at between 87 & 100mph (those that know where the cameras are, that is ). Can't say that cars here don't last as long as anywhere else.

I've been driving a variety of vehicles (Ford & Land Rover) with 4L (244ci) + capacity engines for about 8 years now. I know that's small compared to most US trucks, but it's considered big in SA.. Fuel consumption is pretty much the same @ speeds of 75 up to 90, and only drops noticeably after 120. I drive at least 50 000 miles per year & besides regular services have had no problems associated with gearboxes or engines.

Yes, I agree with the issue regarding tyres - they must be rated for high speed if you're going to do it regularly or for extended periods.

Edited to add: had 3 Fords 'til now, currently on the LR Discovery - BIG MISTAKE!!! Great 4X4 but a real pain in the butt with it's finnicky electronics! That's got nothing to do with 'aggressive' driving though...

A VERY MERRY UNBIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!
D.S # 125

[AggieDave 6]

I hope you have had some reasonably advanced driver's training for those speeds. Very simple things like an emergency evasive lane change to avoid a chunk of semi-truck tread that just blew off a truck can quickly end in death at those speeds. For you and whom ever you strike.

Before I was properly trained at high speed driving and evasive maneuvers I never knew I was that bad of a driver.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

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Um, 'self-taught.'

Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself -

"from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of

[AggieDave 6]

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Um, 'self-taught.'

Yeah, I'm sure you're god's gift to advanced driving.

Seriously, go to some local track days, check with some local autocross clubs, get some training. Why? Well for one you'll have a LOT of fun. Secondly it will make you a much better driver in the real world. I'm not telling you to travel faster then the posted speed limits or what the conditions allow (which ever is lower), but understanding that you may need to use those learned skills at highway speeds then you would appreciate the extra training.

Did I mention its fun? I look forward to driving training every 4 months. Its some of the most fun I've ever had with a vehicle.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

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If the Hondas they sell in the US are not completely different cars from the ones they sell in Europe your car will be fine. Here in Germany a lot of cars are driven at these speeds routinely. I commute my 25 miles at 100-120 every day in VW Golf.

I will not say anything about the the legality or safety of doing so on a US freeway ;-).

Do they really sell cars with tires that are only good for <100 mph in the US??? Scary.

Thomas
Germany

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Before I was properly trained at high speed driving and evasive maneuvers I never knew I was that bad of a driver.

Don't bother trying to educate kids - every single one thinks they are a great driver and "have fast reflexes" etc and it's ok for "them" to break the law all the time. As well as to ignore perfectly legitimate race courses and tracks where they can do it for real. If they went to a real course they might just learn what posers they are, and maybe even learn a few things. Instead of posting self stroking threads.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[popsjumper 2]

My greatest training took place on the dirt tracks of Florida...talkin' 'bout FUN!

Driving by the seat of your pants and driving with the gas pedal is exhilirating.

You're either aggressive or you're a loser.

I thought about going to one of the racing "schools", Petty, Baker, etc. but who the hell wants to play follow-the-leader? I'll lead, YOU follow.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[AggieDave 6]

I wasn't talking about driving in circles and turning the wheel one direction. I was talking about autocross driving. Which is stuff that would actually translate to the real world.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[popsjumper 2]

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...What about the german autobahn. Designed for 250km/hour!!
It's a trill drivng a mercedes AMG there or a porsche (unfortunately i drive a beetle)

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Whaaaa? If you're driving a Beetle on the autobahn, YOU are the hazard!


I once hitchhiked a ride with an old guy in a Beetle on the autobahn...scared the livin' hell out of me...told the old fart he was crazy-as-a-loon and got off at the first exit!

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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Before I was properly trained at high speed driving and evasive maneuvers I never knew I was that bad of a driver.

Don't bother trying to educate kids - every single one thinks they are a great driver and "have fast reflexes" etc and it's ok for "them" to break the law all the time. As well as to ignore perfectly legitimate race courses and tracks where they can do it for real. If they went to a real course they might just learn what posers they are, and maybe even learn a few things. Instead of posting self stroking threads.

There's really no need to be condescending. I merely wanted to know of any ill mechanical effects such driving can have on a vehicle. At no time was I 'stroking" nor did I ever say that what I was doing was 100% safe (nothing ever is.) I am however, as safe as one can be. It's really uncalled for to be so judgmental of me, nonetheless you can do as you wish...

Edited to correct grammatical errors.

Edited again to add: I will gladly look into driving on courses, as AggieDave suggested - I was not even aware that such an option existed.

Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself -

"from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of

[asmund 0]

I may be just imagining it, but my engine runs more smooth on higher octane rated fuels. I always fuel up on the good stuff (Chevron Supreme) when I'm going to drive long distances with a heavy load in my tiny little car.

I like subway.

[popsjumper 2]

..and just where do you think your "pick" maneuver came from?

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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My greatest training took place on the dirt tracks of Florida...talkin' 'bout FUN!

Starting the car with the crank handle on the front is exhilirating.

There, that's better

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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My greatest training took place on the dirt tracks of Florida...talkin' 'bout FUN!

Starting the car with the crank handle on the front is exhilirating.

There, that's better

So if THAT's Popsjumper's car, then Airtwardo's driving a Flintstone car....

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[AggieDave 6]

Its a pit maneuver, not a pick. Eitherway, autocross style driving translates directly to real world driving.

Funny story (at least I thought it was funny). Last February Morgan and I went to Big Bend for some camping. On the way just outside of Johnson City we encountered some deer on the road (I know its a stretch, deer in the middle of the night in the hill country). Well, they were on the backside of a crest of a hill and we were going 80mph in my old truck. I did a HARD evasive lane change, there was no time to even attempt to stop. Luckily since I had been trained well I was able to execute the maneuver and avoid the deer AND not roll my old truck (that had 33" mud tires and a lift). It was still close, one of the deer took the dirt off the driver's side of the truck, but didn't dent anything.

Evasive lane changes took me a while to learn how to do at speed. More then once I ended the course by spinning out and killing a busload of orange cones.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[Andy9o8 2]

The best cure for my aggressive driving was the first time my wife got pregnant. Funny how that works.

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The best cure for my aggressive driving was the first time my wife got pregnant. Funny how that works.

I don't think I should have kids - trust me, the last thing this world needs is so much as 1 more Ralffers running around.

Edited to add: Not to mention, babies scare me.

Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself -

"from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of

[popsjumper 2]

Pick your pit...which one do you want to put him into? Just, please, don't put me into my own. I'd never live down the my crew laughing at me.


Deer. My God. You're right. High-speed driving should be taught on a dark, curvy roads at night in deer country. You'll either get real good real fast or else.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239