Frenchy68 0 #101 February 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteAlthough I'm sure your analogy was meant tongue in cheek, Yes, but I would react the same way to a diseased person as I would a violent one. I'm out! No reason to stick around gamble. Wow! I was married to a woman with such disease for 10 years, and never felt one second threatened. I think the enemy is not the disease itself, but the perception people have of it. Much like Karl Malone vs Magic Johnson in the case of HIV... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #102 February 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteAlthough I'm sure your analogy was meant tongue in cheek, Yes, but I would react the same way to a diseased person as I would a violent one. I'm out! No reason to stick around gamble. Wow! I was married to a woman with such disease for 10 years, and never felt one second threatened. I guess I'm just shallow like that.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #103 February 22, 2008 Quote If a guy hits a girl cause he was mad/frustrated at her, but he was incredibly drunk at the time, is it possible to be an isolated incident and will never happen again? Or should it be considered a "he hit once, he'll hit again" kinda thing? In my experience if it happens once it WILL happen again. Being incredibly drunk at the time just shows that deep down that's what the person wanted to do in the first place and the alcohol washed away the inhibition. Family Violence is a big deal, even if it sounds "simple" or it "was nothing." Even if "he/she does love you" its not worth the mental and physical abuse. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #104 February 22, 2008 Quote In my experience if it happens once it WILL happen again. Being incredibly drunk at the time just shows that deep down that's what the person wanted to do in the first place and the alcohol washed away the inhibition. Dave, has your wife been beating you? You should call a cop.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #105 February 22, 2008 I would, but she really does love me... --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #106 February 22, 2008 Quote I would, but she really does love me... My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #107 February 22, 2008 QuoteMy EX-husband hit me and I left that day never to return. He was drunk, yes, but that wasn't an excuse. Four years later, he apologized for his actions, but it didn't change anything. He still an asshole, still a drunk, and I still left. *applause* A++ for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #108 February 22, 2008 Quote#1 rule of being a man: You don't hit women out of anger, frustration, or anything else where it's not to protect someone else's life that's in danger or similar circumstances, ever. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Doesn't matter the extenuations. You. Don't. Hit. Women. He did. Therefore, he's not someone one should be with. It's a very simple rule, really... Edited - For logical reasons. Yes, if some woman is whaling on their 2-year-old child or dog or cat and talking to them won't stop them, then physically intervening is necessary. Does the above qualifications in bold make more sense? That's what I meant, anyway... I like that much better. It's a good rule to live by.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #109 February 22, 2008 QuoteQuote#1 rule of being a man: You don't hit women out of anger, frustration, or anything else where it's not to protect someone else's life that's in danger or similar circumstances, ever. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Doesn't matter the extenuations. You. Don't. Hit. Women. He did. Therefore, he's not someone one should be with. It's a very simple rule, really... Edited - For logical reasons. Yes, if some woman is whaling on their 2-year-old child or dog or cat and talking to them won't stop them, then physically intervening is necessary. Does the above qualifications in bold make more sense? That's what I meant, anyway... I like that much better. It's a good rule to live by. Damn straight. That is the rule I live by, my only modication is that if I see or know that a man hit a woman he is going to get hit in return."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #110 February 22, 2008 Quote Quote Quote #1 rule of being a man: You don't hit women out of anger, frustration, or anything else where it's not to protect someone else's life that's in danger or similar circumstances, ever. Doesn't matter the circumstances. Doesn't matter the extenuations. You. Don't. Hit. Women. He did. Therefore, he's not someone one should be with. It's a very simple rule, really... Edited - For logical reasons. Yes, if some woman is whaling on their 2-year-old child or dog or cat and talking to them won't stop them, then physically intervening is necessary. Does the above qualifications in bold make more sense? That's what I meant, anyway... I like that much better. It's a good rule to live by. Damn straight. That is the rule I live by, my only modication is that if I see or know that a man hit a woman he is going to get hit in return. That is a rule to live by where ANYONE is concerned - not just women.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #111 February 22, 2008 We all have a box of bad behavior tucked away in the attic between out ears. Booze removes the 'safeties' on the box for some people, drugs...stress...there are a lotta different keys. Is it an isolated incident? Might be, it the offender recognizes that alcohol is a key that unlocks this behavior in him and retires from drinking. Barring that, you gotta understand that that gun is loaded and the trigger has been pulled once, ...it's easier the 2nd time. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #112 February 22, 2008 QuoteI know a "guy" that has had his "girl" hit him while she was drunk and he never hit back. He pushed her away to stop the violent outburst. They had "her" friends over at the house that night. She called the cops about it and he ended up in jail, because HER friends said HE pushed her. (responding to no particular person) Domestic violence doesn't end. Guys who say that they will never hit a woman are just giving them carte blanche on their behavior. They can continue at will. Sometimes it is a pointless slap, or something that gets tossed, but it always happens again. One day, I was arguing with my ex-wife. Actually, she was just arguing with me. Following me around the house, trying to pick a fight. After realizing the situation, I went in my office to work. She followed me in there and continued. When I got up to leave, she started pushing me. (I weigh 200, she weighs 115.) I told her to stop. After the 3rd push, I told her that I would call the police. Her response, "What are you going to tell them? That this big girl was picking on you?" Welcome to the truth. That was the last day of my marriage. The next day, she left the house, I packed up everything. It is not a matter of self-defense, it is the pointlessness of living with someone like that. Relationships shouldn't have that level of discomfort so that anyone has to consider physical confrontation. When it reaches that point, just walk away. There are decent people out there. This is a "red flag". Identify it, learn from it. Your life and future relationships will be better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobarooni 0 #113 February 22, 2008 she probably deserved it. Some women these days just don't know their place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #114 February 22, 2008 It is not a matter of self-defense, it is the pointlessness of living with someone like that. Relationships shouldn't have that level of discomfort so that anyone has to consider physical confrontation. Quote Bingo! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #115 February 22, 2008 QuoteOk, so i was talking to someone about this earlier today and we totally disagree. If a guy hits a girl cause he was mad/frustrated at her, but he was incredibly drunk at the time, is it possible to be an isolated incident and will never happen again? Or should it be considered a "he hit once, he'll hit again" kinda thing? I don't know if he'd ever WANT to do it again, but he would never get the CHANCE to do it again if it were me. There is NO excuse EVER that is good enough, and if they'll do it once, it's just the beginning. Yup, I'd be gone before he sobered up.skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #116 February 22, 2008 If right and wrong were black and white than it would always be wrong for a man to hit a woman. But right and wrong are not always black and white ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BerryBoy 0 #117 February 22, 2008 It doesn't matter if it was a guy or girl...it's domestic violence. To answer your question, I don't think it's a yes or a no type of situation. Personally, I would say that it would be responsible for the guy (in your scenario) to quit drinking out of respect for his spouse and family. Why chance putting themselves in this predicament another time when things could escalate, no matter how small the chance? It wouldn't right a wrong, but it would show genuine concern for the other person's well-being and a commitment to the relationship. That would be the ideal outcome in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #118 February 22, 2008 Wow... I think that has already been clarified a few times. Thanks for the poignant imput as always Butters. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #119 February 22, 2008 QuoteBeing incredibly drunk at the time just shows that deep down that's what the person wanted to do in the first place and the alcohol washed away the inhibition. That's not necessarily true. The irrational things that people do while drunk may or may not be things they had wanted to do before getting drunk. But being drunk is certainly no excuse for hitting someone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #120 February 22, 2008 it's seems that no one here wants to hit a woman, but everyone wants to flogg a dead horse You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #121 February 22, 2008 Quote it's seems that no one here wants to hit a woman, but everyone wants to flogg a dead horse Hmm, actually I wouldn't mind to flog a woman. But only if she wanted me to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #122 February 22, 2008 Quote Hmm, actually I wouldn't mind to flog a woman. But only if she wanted me to. How you doin?? ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #123 February 22, 2008 Quote Quote Hmm, actually I wouldn't mind to flog a woman. But only if she wanted me to. How you doin?? Well I'm doing fine, but my poor flogger has not been used in a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #124 February 24, 2008 Quoteshe probably deserved it. Some women these days just don't know their place. Definition of a Coward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #125 February 25, 2008 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- she probably deserved it. Some women these days just don't know their place. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Definition of a Coward. Quote Strange how Bobarooni only has 29 posts, only shows up when there is something to be said that will definitely offend people and has no profile information filled out. I wonder which DZ.com poster hides behind that handle.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 5 of 8 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
