RALFFERS 0 #26 February 21, 2008 Quote Hey Ralf, I'm late coming to the conversation. I assume death happens in so many different ways. I don't think there is a single process. With that said, I had an experience in the ER where I was literally dying. I was either overdosed on morphine or had a reaction between meds. Technically what was happening to me (and it was fairly quick) was my respiration began to shut down. My oxygen level was dropping along with my pulse and blood pressure. I did not know I was in the process of dying. What I experienced was first faint, then a very weird sensation throughout my body particularly in my chest. I was becoming weak very quickly. My breathing became extremely shallow. I was trying to talk, but I could barely get 1 word out and the nurse had to put her ear to my mouth to hear it. They asked me to make a fist and I tried so hard and after a while the best I could do was slightly curl some fingers inward. I was frightened, but at no time did I know I was in trouble. Fortunately, being in the ER they were able to reverse the process very quickly. I was told later by my cousin who is a doctor that in my situation, if untreated I would have lapsed into unconsciousness and possibly coma. From there who knows. Anyway, it all sounds a lot more dramatic than it actually turned out to be. Wow, Chris, that's pretty hardcore (for lack of a better word.) Glad you're OK... How you been??.....long time no hear (my fault as usual )Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #27 February 21, 2008 I have had someone die in my arms. My first wife, she had CF (cystic fibrosis), and when it was her time to go, she decided that it was, I was with her. The last few hours were sleep, then she did not wake up. But basically, her last breath out was long, her chest sank, and you could feel the energy leave the body, (like a reactor being shut down, a flame extinguished. she went limp, and the body looses control of bodily functions..ie. you pee and/or poop...then the body cools...seemed rapidly to me. And at the time she died, a bunch of dogs outside started howling...I feel they felt the energy shift. It was the hardest moment of my life. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #28 February 21, 2008 I'm just talking about the physical processes that occur to the body. Quote Fade to Black...Roll Credits! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #29 February 21, 2008 Quote I have had someone die in my arms. My first wife, she had CF (cystic fibrosis), and when it was her time to go, she decided that it was, I was with her. The last few hours were sleep, then she did not wake up. But basically, her last breath out was long, her chest sank, and you could feel the energy leave the body, (like a reactor being shut down, a flame extinguished. she went limp, and the body looses control of bodily functions..ie. you pee and/or poop...then the body cools...seemed rapidly to me. And at the time she died, a bunch of dogs outside started howling...I feel they felt the energy shift. It was the hardest moment of my life. I'm really very sorry for your loss - wish I knew what to say. I'm sorry this thread forced you to think back to that I'll think long and hard before I post something of a serious nature again. On a different note, the fact that the dogs were howling at that precise moment makes me wonder...kinda creepy.Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyRamone 0 #30 February 21, 2008 QuoteDenial Anger Bargaining Depression Acceptance Kubler Ross, right? I read her book in high school psycology. was a good read. Did you get those word from HOUSE? Just watched it and they had the same 5 words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #31 February 21, 2008 No, I was replying to Genn who put the first letters. They are the five stages of accepting death, as defined by Kubler Ross. I can't remember much about the book, but I think she cameup with them after working with terminally ill patients or something like that.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #32 February 21, 2008 Quote I watched a special on Nat Geo a couple of weeks ago about the human body. Apparently our hearing is the last thing to go at death. And the last pulse of our brain shuts down 37 hours AFTER death. So our brain is still sending pulses for some time. Interesting...and a little creepy. Yea I heard the same thing year ago. but, until they prove it I'lll just go on thinking that it all fades together since most people who die of old age are deaf alreadyAnyway, I'd still tell them a joke after they die if I am there. You know, just in case.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #33 February 21, 2008 Quote Anyway, I'd still tell them a joke after they die if I am there. You know, just in case. Then make sure it's a good one. Can you imagine if the last thing you hear in life is a bad joke? You'll get people all worried about their final destination! TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #34 February 21, 2008 Actually they teach that to all levels of medical providers. From EMTs to DoctorsDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #35 February 21, 2008 QuoteNo, I was replying to Genn who put the first letters. They are the five stages of accepting death, as defined by Kubler Ross. . It's not just death, it's any significant loss or grief stricken situationYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #36 February 21, 2008 Quote Quote I have had someone die in my arms. My first wife, she had CF (cystic fibrosis), and when it was her time to go, she decided that it was, I was with her. The last few hours were sleep, then she did not wake up. But basically, her last breath out was long, her chest sank, and you could feel the energy leave the body, (like a reactor being shut down, a flame extinguished. she went limp, and the body looses control of bodily functions..ie. you pee and/or poop...then the body cools...seemed rapidly to me. And at the time she died, a bunch of dogs outside started howling...I feel they felt the energy shift. It was the hardest moment of my life. I'm really very sorry for your loss - wish I knew what to say. I'm sorry this thread forced you to think back to that I'll think long and hard before I post something of a serious nature again. On a different note, the fact that the dogs were howling at that precise moment makes me wonder...kinda creepy. well, I centainly went through the mental stages. but then when I would get really upset or feel sorry for myself...I thought of her, and how strong she was to face certain death, and accept it gracefully. Death is a thing we all must deal with, go through, experience...and the older you get, the more people that you know will pass on. The hard ones are the good ones that go before their time, and leave behind on this world the ones that squander life. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #37 February 21, 2008 Quote Quote Anyway, I'd still tell them a joke after they die if I am there. You know, just in case. Then make sure it's a good one. Can you imagine if the last thing you hear in life is a bad joke? You'll get people all worried about their final destination! I've got a few good jokes. I'll tell you in two weeks.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #38 February 21, 2008 Quote Denial Anger Bargaining Depression Acceptance Kubler Ross, right? I read her book in high school psycology. was a good read. Yes. IIRC, Dr. Kubler-Ross explains DABDA as the 5 stages of dying based on the psychological reaction. HS? - I didn't read it until college (PSY Death and Dying) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #39 February 21, 2008 Quote Yea I heard the same thing year ago. but, until they prove it I'lll just go on thinking that it all fades together since most people who die of old age are deaf alreadyAnyway, I'd still tell them a joke after they die if I am there. You know, just in case. Just tell 'em the duck joke. They'll hear that one. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #40 February 21, 2008 I had a really good hs psych teacher, sure, he was also a deadhead, but he was great. I probably learned more in his class than I did in my college class.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #41 February 21, 2008 My friends' dog is deaf I told them that joke. "Hey you wanna know how to sell a duck to Twyzzle." Then I told the joke to the dog. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
