Douva 0 #51 March 8, 2004 Just for clarification, are we talking about surviving a double mal or a double total? I've known several people who've survived double malfunctions (lineover on a reserve, main/reserve entanglement, etc). When most whuffos talk about surviving a double malfunction, they're talking about surviving a double total (nothing out). Most of them point to the video that's been on Real TV about a million times where the guy lands in a field under a streamer. If you actually watch the video, the guy's canopy is about 1/3-1/2 inflated, so he was a long way from terminal velocity. If they aren't pointing to this particular video, which they never seem to really understand, they're referring to some variation of the same old urban legend where a person lands in six inches of water or a muddy field or a pile of manure (that one's new to me) and survives. If there is a physicist in the house, we could really use an explanation of the properties of a liquid when hit at 120mph. Blue skies, DouvaI don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #52 March 9, 2004 Woo hahhhhaaaaa Loved that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #53 March 9, 2004 QuoteJust how old is Wink??? From what I have heard, he was jumping when pteradactyls grabbed men and dropped them and palm-frons (sp?) were all they had to slow themselves down. Don't tell him I said that. Actually I do not know but I know that they posted his picture up there with that caption. You know, now that I think of it.; That could very well be a joke and I just took it as truth. How funny would THAT be! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #54 March 9, 2004 Ok then...based on the stories on the link you posted... If yer gonna end up in ANY situation WITHOUT a good parachute anywhere over yer head, make damn sure it's over SNOW!!! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrSoundman 0 #55 September 7, 2004 Quote There was an entanglement or partially inflated (round) reserve student that landed in the former recycling plant north of the Perris DZ. She broke a bunch of bones, but lived. [c early 1980's] Yep. Her name is Lisa Boyer. I met her after she was released from the hospital. She said she did not remember what the ground rush looked like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #56 September 8, 2004 QuoteTrue story - I'm at Bridge Day one year jumping a Manta. The winds always suck at Bridge Day, and I miscalculate and end up overflying the landing area. "No problem" I think "I will fly down that lane of trees and land by the turnaround." Well, a Manta is a lot bigger than my normal canopy; I realized that it wasn't going to fit between the trees a few seconds before I got there. I also remembered that the worst thing to do is just brush the edge of a tree, since that will collapse your canopy. So I aimed for the middle of the biggest tree I could see, hit it square on, and grabbed a branch. I had just enough time to be proud of myself when the branch broke and I fell head-down towards the ground 50 feet below. At about 10 feet off the ground my canopy snagged on a branch, which flipped me over and slowed me down. Then it unsnagged and I landed standing up. Two EMT's were running up to me when I landed. "What?" I asked them, all innocent. They gave me a disgusted look and walked away. HAHAHAHA! That's cool! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #57 September 8, 2004 OK, so we have Miracle Mike... we have Dead Mike... I'm wondering whether I share a lucky or an unlucky name... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #58 September 8, 2004 Quotealso happened to a stewardess who survived a plane explosion. But you are more likely to survive if you have a functioning parachute... That was in the '70s, I believe -- and the story I read in a book of strange-but-true stuff said that she was tucked into the tail section of the plane, which fell to earth probably with some degree of aerodynamic slowing, like an ouce of water in one of those conical water-cooler cups would. Not the same as just a body falling at terminal velocity, I think. But who knows, I haven't done tests... --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmartin1872 0 #59 February 9, 2008 QuoteThere have been various double mal survival stories. Sandy McRob into the old Bent Prop parking lot and Da3ve Ruckert (his spelling not mine) into Lost Prairie come to mind. I do know one story about a guy who went in with all pins in place and lived. It happened in Abbotsford BC in the late seventies or early eighties. Dead Bob was preparing to dump when he went through another guys (round) main. Dead Bob was knocked out. The other guy cut away and deployed his reserve; Dead Bob went through that too. The two jumpers formed a horseshoe out of the mess of fabric and went in like that. Both jumpers were very fucked up but they both lived. They were slowed down somewhat by the fabric out and they benefited from the soft muddy ground 10 feet above sea level that is Abbotsford. Dead Bob eventually started skydiving again and, although I haven't seen him in some time, I believe he still does occasionally jump. Many people believe Dead Bob had his chance to die and blew it, that he's immortal now. Since the accident he has survived a plane crash, a bad industrial accident, and in 1992 he was one of nine jumpers and one pilot quickly exiting a Porter over Chilliwack BC after the first one out took the tail with him. Ask Jerry Bird about that one if you see him. You do know the most entertaining thing about "Dead Bob"... I believe he is/was a life insurance salesman. And i believe he blew himself up with dynamite once... Not too sure about that one. First time i was on a motorbike, was with him when i was a kid... I think it was a goldwing... but can't remember that well.. Up and down the runway at the Chilliwack Drop Zone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #60 February 9, 2008 wow. that is some scary stuff right there... .. i must say, great story, BUT, you know as well as I do.. if there is no video, it DIDN'T happen! CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmartin1872 0 #61 February 9, 2008 i know... My dad's favorite story, is when he was teaching a first jump course in Abbotsford in the late 70's and a jumper went in, he got the entire 1st jump course to still jump. 1 girl jumped the next day, the rest jumped that day. but that's a little off topic for this post... I've just been browsing the old posts, and recognizing names from my childhood.. This website is like memory lane for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selbbub78 0 #62 February 9, 2008 It sucks!!! Scariest thing i remember while skydiving.. Long story short: someone wrapped me in their parachute at 2700feet, their parachute got tighter around my body, i couldn't see my parachute, told the other person to cut away at 2000 feet, i started spinning uncontrolably, tried to cut my main away (1500 feet), and pull my reserve, and as soon as i cut my main, the parachute that was wrapped around my body, got entanged with my reserve handle, and i could never pull the reserve... At 1000 feet, i knew something had to be done, and i spazzed out for a second because i didn't want to die. I landed with 2 cells inflatted of the parachute that was just wrapped around my body in a corn field in July (corn wasn't high)... Worst, but most learned from jump ever!!! I Hope no one ever has to go through something like that. I think that constitutes as no parachute... or very little of someone else's parachute anyway CReW Skies, bubbles "Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
