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riggerrob 643
Quotejust had my second reserve last sunday, spinning mal
I can spiraling with my canopy level towards the ground but sunday for the first time I was on my back so I looked at my alt 4000 ft and bye-bye vengeance Hello reserve , the rsl beat me to the pin so I had 2 or 3 twist on the reserve but it flew level , so I think that for me the rsl as to go . on the other hand within 3 or 4 second I´ve lost about 800 ft and my wingload on the main is about 1.35 ,I think that I´ve learned a good lesson.
I don´t wan´t to think what feel w.l. off 1.6 ,1.8 or higher if you open at 2000ft or so
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If line twists on your reserve upset you, then your reserve is too small.
RSL or no RSL should not be part of your thought process.
amir1967 0
``If line twists on your reserve upset you, then your reserve is too small.
RSL or no RSL should not be part of your thought process.``
No they don´t upset me just wanted to share that for me the rsl has to go when I get my rig back from a repack .
and maybe someone els jumping elliptical will disconnet their´s
RSL or no RSL should not be part of your thought process.``
No they don´t upset me just wanted to share that for me the rsl has to go when I get my rig back from a repack .
and maybe someone els jumping elliptical will disconnet their´s
AM67
taz9420 0
A little unwritten rule at my home DZ: When you get to the ground (overcome with excitement), before any one sees, pull your reserve handle, either that or prepare for an ass chewing.
Tottally with you on that one dterrick. My right arm came completely out of socket in freefall and I knew it was going to be useless within 1 second of looking back it it noodling in the wind. Went straight for the silver.
Honestly, I'll bet there are alot of people with the attitude that going silver is like the worst thing that could happen, i.e. I'll have to pay for repack, I'll lose my freebag, I'll get rediculed. Granted, they may not think they think this, but look at how many people lately are trying to deal with spinning up mains when really they should just chop it.
I'm all about the silver should the need ever arise again.
Be safe out there friends.
-- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --
Honestly, I'll bet there are alot of people with the attitude that going silver is like the worst thing that could happen, i.e. I'll have to pay for repack, I'll lose my freebag, I'll get rediculed. Granted, they may not think they think this, but look at how many people lately are trying to deal with spinning up mains when really they should just chop it.
I'm all about the silver should the need ever arise again.
Be safe out there friends.
-- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --
Tonto 1
Quote-----------------------------------------------------If you worry about an unstable opening causing your reserve to malfunction, you are wearing the wrong size of reserve! __________________________________________________
How would a different size reserve have less chance of malfunctioning from an unstable deployment?
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How would a different size reserve have less chance of malfunctioning from an unstable deployment?
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billvon 3,063
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>How would a different size reserve have less chance of
>malfunctioning from an unstable deployment?
A heavily loaded reserve might spin up after line twists and be unrecoverable.
>malfunctioning from an unstable deployment?
A heavily loaded reserve might spin up after line twists and be unrecoverable.
geronimo 1
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> i'm wondering which kind of jumpers did not go for the silver after a cutaway:
From the skydiving fatalities site:
- a jumper with borrowed gear, no RSL or AAD; 100 jumps
- a jumper who did go for silver but waited too long after the cutaway; 160 jumps. Had an AAD but it fired too low.
- a jumper in Oklahoma cut away at around 400 feet and did not pull the reserve. No info on jump #'s.
- a jumper cut away after an RW jump and never opened the reserve. 550 jumps. No AAD/RSL.
- A skysurfer cut away at around 3000 feet, no reserve pull. He had 500+ jumps.
- a student on her first jump was told to cut away as a result of a mal. She did not open her reserve. No AAD/RSL.
[sarcasm]
Hey are these from just one year & only from the US?
If so, why don't you start up a mandated RSL and or AAD thread??
That's six fatalities per year that would be saved by these life saving devices - about the same as your 'save' projection for the Max WL BSR.
Proper execution of emergency procedures would have (most likely) prevented these fatalities.
But wait - that is jumper education, knowledge and experience coming into play.
I know - force an equipment requirement and then say 'An RSL or AAD may have prevented these fatalities.'
It's all so clear to me now!
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billvon 3,063
>If so, why don't you start up a mandated RSL and or AAD thread??
Because fatalities in those categories are low, <2 or 3 a year each.
>But wait - that is jumper education, knowledge and experience
>coming into play.
Exactly. Students are trained extensively on how to pull when they're low and how to cut away if they have to. In fact, that training is (here's that nasty word again) mandatory. Thus there are fewer skydivers dying than otherwise would. If you made cutaway training optional during the FJC, then a lot more people would die under malfunctions.
You don't advocate voluntary cutaway training during the FJC, do you?
Because fatalities in those categories are low, <2 or 3 a year each.
>But wait - that is jumper education, knowledge and experience
>coming into play.
Exactly. Students are trained extensively on how to pull when they're low and how to cut away if they have to. In fact, that training is (here's that nasty word again) mandatory. Thus there are fewer skydivers dying than otherwise would. If you made cutaway training optional during the FJC, then a lot more people would die under malfunctions.
You don't advocate voluntary cutaway training during the FJC, do you?
billvon LOL
sometimes people need the obvious pointed out.
sometimes people need the obvious pointed out.
rgoper 0
QuoteYou don't advocate voluntary cutaway training during the FJC, do you?
not in the FJC, but at some point and time during the utilized training program...yes. mandatory? no, optional...yes. i had to wait until jump #474 to find out what it was like, and it messed with me every jump just about, (is this my mal jump?) until it actually happened.
--Richard--
"We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist"
"We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist"
Newbie 0
QuoteA little unwritten rule at my home DZ: When you get to the ground (overcome with excitement), before any one sees, pull your reserve handle, either that or prepare for an ass chewing.
I'm not having a go, but my honest opinion is "why?". I think this is pointless - why let pride get in the way of your own survival? If that were me and the CYPRES had done the job i was meant to have done, i would take an ass chewing anyday and spend another day/week/month/year on the ground learning nothing but emergency procedures to drill them into my head, rather than fooling everyone - myself included - into thinking i had done the right thing in the air, when i hadn't.
Just my personal opinion on this.
"Skydiving is a door"
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andy2 0
I think he is right. Be true to yourself and others and you will receive the information/training you need. Lying just hurts yourself!
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I can spiraling with my canopy level towards the ground but sunday for the first time I was on my back so I looked at my alt 4000 ft and bye-bye vengeance Hello reserve , the rsl beat me to the pin so I had 2 or 3 twist on the reserve but it flew level , so I think that for me the rsl as to go . on the other hand within 3 or 4 second I´ve lost about 800 ft and my wingload on the main is about 1.35 ,I think that I´ve learned a good lesson.
I don´t wan´t to think what feel w.l. off 1.6 ,1.8 or higher if you open at 2000ft or so
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