Squeak 17 #1 January 18, 2007 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/18/nyregion/18jumper.html?ref=nyregion and this one http://www.nysun.com/article/46901You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #2 January 18, 2007 Awesome! For once, a judge who's not thinking with someone else's pocket, but actually thought about it.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #3 January 18, 2007 In this day and age that is a huge decision. CONGRATS Jeb!!!! Now watch Discovery beg for you back! .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #4 January 18, 2007 bet he dosen't go back...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #5 January 18, 2007 i would bet that as well. Really happy for him! This sounds like it really has opened up doors for BASE .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #6 January 18, 2007 Quotei would bet that as well. Really happy for him! This sounds like it really has opened up doors for BASE How so?Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #7 January 18, 2007 Good story. I think the jumping should be allowed, but I also understand why the police are concerned. If I were Mayor, I would find a way to capitalize on this. Hold an "BASEmpire" day or something once or twice a year. It could be a great draw for the city. It could also be a practical way to try new rigs out for "tower escape" ideas, etc.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #8 January 18, 2007 Quote Hold an "BASEmpire" day This will never happen. If anything, cops are now going to be on the lookout for an BASE jumpers, and come up with new things to charge them with.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #9 January 18, 2007 WOW.. a judge who actually applied the law... clearly the prosecutor hasnt looked up the definition of 'reckless' ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #10 January 18, 2007 QuoteQuotei would bet that as well. Really happy for him! This sounds like it really has opened up doors for BASE How so? Historic case law such as this will set the precedent for future cases. If other jumpers also prove they have the experience and took reasonable precautions in the interest of saety they could get away with it too This means rather than each case being dependent on each individual judges interpretaion of the law they should follow the historic decisions in similar circumstances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #11 January 18, 2007 NYC cops will be charging BASE jumpers with other things now.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #12 January 18, 2007 From the article... "...After the failed stunt, the Discovery Channel fired him from a show he hosted called "Stunt Junkies. " Executives said at the time they were "beyond disappointed at his serious lack of judgment and his reckless behavior."..." I find it interesting that he WAS hired, I would guess due to his unique background...and then fired for the same reason...go figure. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selbbub78 0 #13 January 18, 2007 WoW!!! WAY TO GO JEB!!!! and completely shocking for that judge... wow..... That's just awesome!!! CReW Skies, bubbles"Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #14 January 18, 2007 QuoteHistoric case law such as this will set the precedent for future cases. If other jumpers also prove they have the experience and took reasonable precautions in the interest of saety they could get away with it too In Florida, there are people who do wheelies down the interstates at 80mph. They also are very experienced riders with professional credentials. They face a combination of jail time and/or huge fines for "reckless endangerment". Experience or credentials do not allow professional NASCAR drivers to do 200mph on a public road. The difference is venue. The other drivers are expecting it and trained for it. A professional BASE jumper could land in an intersection and 6 surprised cars stack up while trying to avoid him. As the DA said, there does not have to be an "exact" law. A lot of laws are general in nature. The next judge may give him 6 months in jail. His judge may have decided that the DA wore "too bright" a tie in his court and wanted to f- him. This isn't a legal definition, it was just luck. Legal is what a judge decides on a given day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #15 January 18, 2007 QuoteNYC cops will be charging BASE jumpers with other things now. It is the govt and they are the cops. You may win once (or 50) times and make a fool of them. On that 51st, they will introduce you to unhappiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78RATS 0 #16 January 18, 2007 anybody have a link to the judges decision? I would be interested to see how he decided this is protected by the First Amendment. (NY Sun Article). Basically, the First Amendment "trumps" other laws, so... Rat for Life - Fly till I die When them stupid ass bitches ask why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #17 January 18, 2007 Every now and then, on very rare occasions, things actually do change. I'm not saying this is going to be one of those occasions, but it certainly has the potential to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #18 January 18, 2007 QuoteEvery now and then, on very rare occasions, things actually do change. I'm not saying this is going to be one of those occasions, but it certainly has the potential to be. The only thing that may change is the money and permits process. For bandit jumps, somebody is going to specify a law and then put the smackdown on whoever volunteers to be an example. If there was a legal event with permits to jump and TV advertising money to be had, then it could be done, but then, it would be legal. (Like Bridge Day) If Jeb pursued it, he could probably phrase it as, "I realize that I should work within the system, so... how much would it cost to do this for a TV show?" Call it Monkey Day, in honor of the first primate to fall from the top of the Empire State building. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #19 January 18, 2007 Quoteanybody have a link to the judges decision? I would be interested to see how he decided this is protected by the First Amendment. (NY Sun Article). Basically, the First Amendment "trumps" other laws, so... from what i can gather it was put forth as artistic endevourYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #20 January 19, 2007 Three cheers for Judge Ambrecht ! Another reason for protecting the independence of the judiciary, I'd say. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brothermuff65 0 #21 January 19, 2007 ALLRIGHT what a great deal to bad the rest of the country dont believe in being fair about things good luck jebtill later have fun & love each other seeya mb65johnny gates Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitch 0 #22 January 17, 2008 *cough, chough*Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 507 #23 January 17, 2008 How can jumping during the day when the streets below are busy with pedestrians and traffic not be a potential endangerment? Nobody can guarantee that they will not have a malfunction and unless you clear the area below then surely you are being reckless?Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #24 January 17, 2008 Quoteanybody have a link to the judges decision? Here you are--it's just a slip opinion: http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2007/2007_50192.htmTPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #25 January 17, 2008 Court concludes that this defendant's conduct, while dangerous and ill conceived, does not rise to the level of depraved indifference and thus the indictment must be dismissed. Wonder how many "Get Outta Jail Free" cards each player gets?! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
