rickjump1 0 #1 January 6, 2008 Got this off MSNBC. SINGAPORE - Male macaque monkeys pay for sex by grooming females, according to a recent study that suggests the primates may treat sex as a commodity. "In primate societies, grooming is the underlying fabric of it all," Dr. Michael Gumert, a primatologist at the Nanyang Technological University in Singapore, said in a telephone interview Saturday. "It's a sign of friendship and family, and it's also something that can be exchanged for sexual services," Gumert said. Gumert's findings, reported in New Scientist last week, resulted from a 20-month observation of about 50 long-tailed macaques in a reserve in Central Kalimantan, Indonesia. Gumert found after a male grooms a female, the likelihood that she will engage in sexual activity with the male was about three times more than if the grooming had not occurred. And as with other commodities, the value of sex is affected by supply and demand factors: A male would spend more time grooming a female if there were fewer females in the vicinity. "And when the female supply is higher, the male spends less time on grooming ... The mating actually becomes cheaper depending on the market," Gumert said. Other experts not involved in the study welcomed Gumert's research, saying it was a major effort in systematically studying the interaction of organisms in ways in which an exchange of commodities or services can be observed — a theory known as biological markets. Dr. Peter Hammerstein, a professor at the Institute for Theoretical Biology at Humboldt University in Berlin and Dr. Ronald Noe, a primatologist at the University of Louis-Pasteur in Strasbourg, France, first proposed the concept of biological markets in 1994. "It is not a rare phenomenon in nature that males have to make some 'mating effort' in order to get a female's 'permission' to mate," Hammerstein said in an interview, likening the effort to a "fee" that the male pays. "The interesting result of Dr. Gumert's research on macaque mating is that the mating market seems to have an influence on the amount of this fee," Hammerstein said.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #2 January 6, 2008 It's a hell of a lot cheaper than dinner & a movie. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #3 January 6, 2008 QuoteIt's a hell of a lot cheaper than dinner & a movie. Yeah, but remember on "Wild Kingdom", grooming included picking out fleas and then biting them to kill them.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #4 January 6, 2008 Ya' gettin' lonely up there in Montana, Rick???? You know you don't have to pay for it down here....lol (or maybe Polly's got an edge I've not seen in her before. Heh). You can always come home if you find yourself in dire straits. Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #5 January 6, 2008 I know this is very private, but I can honestly say I never had to pull fleas out of my wife's hair to get laid. Honest. Besides, she is flealess.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #6 January 6, 2008 So if I have this right, the monkeys pick nits before sex. With humans the nit picking starts after sex. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #7 January 6, 2008 QuoteI know this is very private, but I can honestly say I never had to pull fleas out of my wife's hair to get laid. Honest. Besides, she is flealess. I figured she must be kinda' easy, since you threated to shoot anyone who might sneak into your house at night to give you a blow job...lol. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #8 January 6, 2008 Yep.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapter 0 #9 January 6, 2008 A buddy once told me I couldn't get laid in a Monkey whore house with a bag full of bananas. Only the good die young, so I have found immortality, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #10 January 6, 2008 Quote A buddy once told me I couldn't get laid in a Monkey whore house with a bag full of bananas. Well, was he right or wrong?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #11 January 6, 2008 QuoteA buddy once told me I couldn't get laid in a Monkey whore house with a bag full of bananas. Did he say anything about putting a condom on each one?Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #12 January 6, 2008 QuoteA buddy once told me I couldn't get laid in a Monkey whore house with a bag full of bananas. Money talks, bananas walk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #13 January 6, 2008 I'm still curious if his friend was right or if he proved him wrong.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #14 January 6, 2008 So, admittedly, it's a dangerous parallel and I shouldn't even go there . . . but, given that it's dz.com and better judgment is left at the door. . . . I'm not saying that this will get you the same results, but having a man brush your hair can be VERY sexy.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #15 January 6, 2008 I;m going to go away for a while and see how this turns out later. My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #16 January 6, 2008 Quote So, admittedly, it's a dangerous parallel and I shouldn't even go there . . . but, given that it's dz.com and better judgment is left at the door. . . . I'm not saying that this will get you the same results, but having a man brush your hair can be VERY sexy. Imagining a man brushing Rick's hair makes me vomit a little. Please don't go there again...lol. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #17 January 6, 2008 Yeah . . . I know, I know! TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #18 January 6, 2008 Quote Quote So, admittedly, it's a dangerous parallel and I shouldn't even go there . . . but, given that it's dz.com and better judgment is left at the door. . . . I'm not saying that this will get you the same results, but having a man brush your hair can be VERY sexy. Imagining a man brushing Rick's hair makes me vomit a little. Please don't go there again...lol. linz YIKES! See??! I knew it was a dangerous place to go. Sorry . . . didn't mean to kill the thread. TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galvar2439 0 #19 January 6, 2008 Every male pays for sex in one way or another, it is never free.So i just broke up with this woman who wasn't even my girlfriend! Hellfish #782, POPS #10664 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapter 0 #20 January 6, 2008 I have never had sexual relations with that Monkey,,,,,,,,,,,,, spanked one once. Only the good die young, so I have found immortality, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #21 January 6, 2008 Quote Quote Quote So, admittedly, it's a dangerous parallel and I shouldn't even go there . . . but, given that it's dz.com and better judgment is left at the door. . . . I'm not saying that this will get you the same results, but having a man brush your hair can be VERY sexy. Imagining a man brushing Rick's hair makes me vomit a little. Please don't go there again...lol. linz YIKES! See??! I knew it was a dangerous place to go. Sorry . . . didn't mean to kill the thread. Well, you know these doctors can prescribe their own drugs. Wonder what she's on tonight. As for brushing a woman's hair, I don't think a "bam,bam, thank you mam" kind of guy would take the time. It would be a nice personal thing to do to a lady you really care about. Rule #1 of course: she must be flealess. Thank you Linz.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #22 January 6, 2008 Yeah, it takes some of the charm away if there are fleas involved . . . but at that point, I think you have bigger personal problems than charm.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #23 January 6, 2008 This is gross. It's like popping SO's pimples. Ewwwww Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #24 January 6, 2008 Yes. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #25 January 6, 2008 Wonder what she's on tonight. I'm not on anything, Rick. Didn't you know that I already quit the hard drugs??? Just trying to protect your cute little ass from the boys.... -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites