millertime24 8 #1 January 3, 2008 I'm currently serving in the USAF and my NC drivers license is about to expire. I currently live in UT, but my "technical" state of residence is AK (pretty convoluted I know). Some of my friends have told me that as long as I carry a valid military ID then I can drive on an expired license indefinately. The problem is I can find absolutely no laws stating this after extensively searching online. So if anyone out there knows anything about this and can provide some kind of info of either my friends being right or wrong I would much appreciate it. -MikeMuff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #2 January 3, 2008 I don't know the answer...but I can just imagine you trying to explain that to a statey. Just get a license from somewhere and avoid the potential for trouble.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 818 #3 January 3, 2008 keep a copy of your orders on you... I had this problem (MANY years ago) when stationed our of state...stopped once and simply presented the id and the orders. even the dick cops should understand this... in the meantime....: NC DMV Military Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #4 January 3, 2008 There are usually methods for military that aren't able to make it back to their state of residence to renew their license by mail... in Ohio this is the answer provide the BMV FAQ page: I am in the military, can I wait to renew my driver license when I return to Ohio? A22: There are provisions to allow an individual to renew via the postal service. A renewal packet can be sent for completion and a new license is then sent to the customer. If the individual wishes to wait until their return, the persons should still be active duty or separated not more than 6 months. Each law enforcement jurisdiction makes the determination whether the expired Ohio driver license, motorcycle endorsement or commercial driver license will be accepted as valid when presented with a military identification card. If a driver license has not been renewed, upon expiration the Ohio BMV record will indicate "Expired". The Ohio BMV record does not have any special notations to indicate if a driver is active duty military or a dependent of an active duty military service member, therefore if stopped by a law enforcement agent, the record will read "Expired". The Ohio Revised Code, 4507.03 states in part "...Every person on active duty in the armed forces of the United States, when furnished with a driver's permit and when operating an official motor vehicle in connection with such duty, is exempt from the license requirements..." "...This section does not prevent such a person or his spouse or dependent from making an application for renewal of a driver's license, motorcycle endorsement or commercial driver's license during the period of his active duty or service..." so it looks as if you are allowed to drive on an expired license but you can get in trouble if you get pulled over for driving on an expired license... ultimately you just need to get stationed in AZ where the Drivers license is good for 50 years.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustChuteMeNow 0 #5 January 3, 2008 I don't know about AK but Iowa law does have provisions that allow military members to carry an expired license until they leave the military. I think that it varies by state but I could be wrong. I never had a problem showing an expired license to policemen but that could be because I lived around a military base and they were familiar with the law.Think of how stupid the average person is and realize that statistically half of them are stupider than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #6 January 3, 2008 Thanks guys. I think I'm just going to break down and get a Utah license. Did you know their test is open book? Hellz yeah! But on a serious note most of the drivers in this God forsaken state have absolutley no idea how to drive and as soon as it snows you may as well stay home.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #7 January 3, 2008 I know for a fact that My NYS license does not expire until 6 months after I leave the military. I also know for a fact that not every cop knows that. For that reason I have always kept my license current. It simply isnt worth the hassle in the event that you do get pulled over to try to explain it. 99% of the time if you're just going a few miles over the limit the cops give you a warning as a "thank you for the service" but if you're speeding , 15-20 miles over the limit, you're fucked.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #8 January 3, 2008 Quote99% of the time if you're just going a few miles over the limit the cops give you a warning as a "thank you for the service" but if you're speeding , 15-20 miles over the limit, you're fucked.Driving on an expired license also might give an officer a reason NOT to let you go with a warning when he might otherwise do so... even if it is perfectly legit and within the law to drive with an expired license while in the service.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #9 January 3, 2008 Quote ultimately you just need to get stationed in AZ where the Drivers license is good for 50 years. Damn... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #10 January 3, 2008 I PMd you my cell phone number. Give me a call tonight between 1800-2200 EST. I don't feel like typing it all. Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 January 3, 2008 It depends on the state. In many states you can renew your license for a few bucks online, others you can just mail a check and they mail you a new license back. Is that really that big of a deal if you're stationed somewhere except in a current war zone?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyguy78 0 #12 January 3, 2008 Instead of having heresay, talk to your first shirt. They are usually pretty knowledgable and if they cant find the asnwer, they will find it for you. The first sergant is there to help, use them.There is a fine line between being a hopeless romantic and a stalker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shepp 0 #13 January 3, 2008 Quoteas long as I carry a valid military ID then I can drive on an expired license indefinately. Mike, this is correct. Your expired license will be valid throughout your active duty service and for 90 days thereafter. Check out this link below - the AK DMV can send you a card that you can carry along with your license explaining this to law enforcement if you get stopped. AK DMV InfoExperience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterward. Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
divnswoop 0 #14 January 3, 2008 Quote I PMd you my cell phone number. Give me a call tonight between 1800-2200 EST. I don't feel like typing it all. Is that a "PM sent" response??? Hi John! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #15 January 4, 2008 Most states allow it, and definitely in Texas you can drive on an expired license while on active duty. To be on the safe side though, contact your first shirt, they will know.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HALO1 0 #16 January 4, 2008 Like several have said... It varies state-by-state. And, as Icon pointed out, an out-of-state expired license could give the cop reason to "hang around" longer I'm AD AF and have been questioned several times by cops about my expired license (most recently 3-weeks ago)... My issuing state allows it. BTW: I don't think your Shirt will know the answer. He/She will more likely tell you to contact your issuing state. Don't be sexist… Broads hate that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #17 January 4, 2008 Quoteand definitely in Texas you can drive on an expired license while on active duty IF the license is less then 2 years out of date. After 2 years licenses are typically purged from DPS' computers so it will no longer be a valid license. There is another document that DPS can issue for people with TX DLs on active duty, I think its the LI-9 if I remember correctly. That will show proof of current active duty and the validity of the license. This is assuming that your license isn't suspended, denied renewal, showing deny renewal or revoked. All of which can happen for unpaid traffic tickets, sometimes even tickets in other states.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #18 January 4, 2008 It is a state to state thing. Pick a state and get a license. Some Officers may let you slide but just having a set of orders doesn't make it right. Cali for example you can have your license up to 30 days after your ETS or Retirement and it could be 30+ years old AS LONG as you have the small paper law card attached to it and a valid Mil ID. My license was 21 years old, but I got smart and am a TN resident now. An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #19 January 4, 2008 Quote BTW: I don't think your Shirt will know the answer. He/She will more likely tell you to contact your issuing state. Yea, I guess that 22 years on active duty did nothing for me.....Fuck yea your first shirt will know. Or they will know what office to contact.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #20 January 4, 2008 think I found it here: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/driver_licensing_control/militaryrenewal.htm something along the lines of, "MILITARY “The validity of any Texas driver’s license held by any person who enters or is in the United States armed forces shall continue in full force and effect so long as the service continues and the person remains absent from this State, and for not to exceed ninety (90) days following the date on which the licensee is honorably separated from such service or returns to this State, unless the license is sooner suspended, cancelled, or revoked for cause as provided by law.” Legislation effective September 1, 1971"[url] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm951 0 #21 January 4, 2008 Mike decide whether you're going to be a UT resident or just renew your NCDL. The deciding factor for state of residence should be income tax. If you renew your NCDL, still have AK listed as residence, but are stationed in UT, you could pose in interesting problem at tax time. I mention this because that license will have some bearing on what state is going to claim your tax dollars. Any ?? just call my cell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #22 January 4, 2008 Quote Mike decide whether you're going to be a UT resident or just renew your NCDL. The deciding factor for state of residence should be income tax. If you renew your NCDL, still have AK listed as residence, but are stationed in UT, you could pose in interesting problem at tax time. I mention this because that license will have some bearing on what state is going to claim your tax dollars. Any ?? just call my cell. Now that is the best response yet!!! Although being on active duty, you can designate just about anywhere as being your "state of residence"... I had an expired Mississippi DL for about 10 years, and was a resident of Texas... ie, no state tax but they more than make of for that in "other" taxes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #23 January 4, 2008 Thanks guys. I went out yesterday and just paid the 25 bucks and got a UT license. In the military your state of residence can be anywhere youve been I think. My LES sais I'm an AK resident but I havent lived there for a year. It was pretty easy getting the license though. All I needed was my mil ID, old DL, and 2 bills with my UT address on them oh yeah and $25. Then they made me take the little 25 question test and my license will be here within 2 weeks. On a sadder note, there was a girl there (first time getting a DL i guess) who I was sitting beside while i took my test. When I passed she looked at me and asked me if I passed to which I replied "yes". Then she asked if I studied the book very much and I told her I've never even seen it upon which she started crying. She took the test twice and had failed both times. I felt kinda bad, but the really sad thing is they can go study for a while (still at the DMV) and try again until they get their DL . And its such a fuckin mystery why drivers here suck ass. Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #24 January 5, 2008 I know for a fact that you can drive with an expired license as long as you have a valid military ID. When your military ID expires you have 6 months from your date of separation to either go to your home state or get licensed in the state you choose to live in after you get out. If you go beyond that 6 months...then a cop has every right to ticket you."Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unlucky1 0 #25 January 5, 2008 Yes....Don't get an Alaskan Drivers license. That just means more PFD for me ! ! ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
