cocheese 0 #101 December 13, 2007 Free tunnel time, new shoes, a Victoria Secret gift certificate, and a back rub? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #102 December 13, 2007 LOL Play fair. . . .TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #103 December 13, 2007 All is fair in love and lust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #104 December 13, 2007 Quote Free tunnel time, new shoes, a Victoria Secret gift certificate, and a back rub? please stop talking this way I'm finding it hard to keep anything down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #105 December 14, 2007 Quote CO has got the most political quibles os any state/province I've ever seen.... except for Alberta! You havent been to Vegas, then? SDLV did a good job at ruining the vibe for any DZ that tried to open here. Skydive Mesquite is actively working on repairing that vibe by being a politic free dz.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #106 December 14, 2007 Quote Quote Quote So we either accept what goes on at Mile Hi or we don't jump. Not in Colorado. Those of you who have more than one dz to choose from, appreciate that freedom. USPA shows 4 DZ's. Did the other 3 close? http://uspa.org/dz/states/CO.htm As a practical matter, Sartre's right. There's really only one viable dz to jump from around here. Maybe for you. I got a cool place in the springs to jump.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #107 December 14, 2007 I always wondered why it is the guys from the Academy come to Longmont and jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #108 December 14, 2007 Quote I always wondered why it is the guys from the Academy come to Longmont and jump. I asked that same question, back when Calhan was still a fully-functioning DZ. The answer I got at the time was that there were always staff from the Academy around Calhan to keep an eye on them, so they would come up to MHS where they could get a breath of fresh air w/o the scrutiny. Then one of the Academy staff became part of the MHS staff on the weekends..."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #109 December 15, 2007 QuoteUSPA shows 4 DZ's. Did the other 3 close? http://uspa.org/dz/states/CO.htm You kinda have to live in the Denver area to understand why we say that Mile Hi is the only place to jump. 1. Colorado Skysports - it's a Cessna DZ (more or less) - the King Air kinda crashed, and the Cessna is now crashed. I think they're looking around for another plane, but I don't really jump there, so I don't know the story, and you can take my statements as rumor and speculation. Maybe someone else local can pipe up and say if they're jumping at all these days. 2. Elaborate Skydiving at Calhan - yep, this one is closed. Many of us are sad about that. 3. Mile-Hi Skydiving Center, Inc - well, that's the one that's being discussed. Otter, King Air, Cessna - all turbo. 4. Skydive The Rockies - might as well be in another state. 3-4 hour drive from the Denver area, depending on how fast you drive. Another Cessna DZ that does tandems, and unless you're planning on tenting or hotel for the weekend, and bringing a friend or two, then you're probably going to do a lot of driving and one or two solos. There just aren't that many full-time jumpers here. Not really enough to support more than one large DZ. Probably enough tandems and regular jumpers to support one large DZ and a few cessna DZs that are several hours drive away. Pretty much all the DZs in Colorado survive on tandems, but there isn't much room for more than one fun-jumper DZ.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #110 December 15, 2007 Quote My understanding is that they actually have a fee added to their jump ticket prices that put the money into the Memorial fund that this is coming from. The former owners family basically put it as a stipulation that all jumps would have a $1 surcharge that would be added to the fund then then matched by the DZ as part of their terms when the DZ was sold. It was a really sore point for the CO crew for a while since their ticket prices went up and they were all forced into making this "donation" but were not able to write it off of their taxes or anything like that. Its nice to see a donation like that though. If the DZO is having to kick in a $1 and the jumpers are kicking in a $1/jump. I wonder if this "contract clause didn't exist if the DZO could reduce his rates by $2/jump. Whats to say the extra $1/jump is coming out of his pocket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadHead881 0 #111 December 15, 2007 I just started jumping and Mile-hi happens to be my Dropzone...I think its a great thing what they are doing... Its just a buck i will be happy to know that every time i jump there I'm helping out a little bit in good old Colorado!What would you attempt to do if you knew you would not fail... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #112 December 15, 2007 QuoteSkydive The Rockies - might as well be in another state. 3-4 hour drive from the Denver area Damn Phil you must drive like a grannie. When I lived in southwest Boulder, my commute to SDTR took me roughly 2 hours and 20 minutes and I wasn't driving all that fast. Of course my commute to MH was only 20 minutes from the same Boulder location. So it's a no brainer why I did most of my jumps at the closer DZ. But it was still good to visit SDTR, Calhan and Brush when they were open. Now MH is the place to go and those of us who started jumping at MH during the Jeff Sands era know the DZ is radically different these days. Oh and despite what I may have said in a similar thread a few years back when this force contribution came into effect, you will NEVER EVER catch me again whining about $22 jumps tickets. Up here in over taxed Canuckville, they charge me on average $30+ per jump to hurl myself out of a Cessna from only 9k maybe 10k and that is if you are lucky enough to even get on the airplane since we all know priority is always given to tandems, tandem cameramen and students. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #113 December 15, 2007 Quote Up here in over taxed Canuckville, they charge me on average $34/jump to hurl myself out of a Cessna from only 9k maybe 10k and that is if you are lucky enough to even get on the airplane since we all know priority is always given to tandems, tandem cameramen and students. $34 Canadian or US?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #114 December 15, 2007 Canadian. But remember the Canadian looney is worth more than the US greenback these days. It's not the DZs fault. Here in tax happy Canada, we pay more for everything. The DZ expenses are just so much much higher thanks to our socialistic governments who promise free healthcare but let people die on waiting lists since all our doctors and nurses have left the country. But I am getting off topic here. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #115 December 15, 2007 Yes I realize the Canuckian $ is worth more. I was thinking that would be about $50 US, but then remembered I was thinking of the Euro. Just the other day I had to pay for something priced at 9.95 Euros; $15.03 US."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #116 December 16, 2007 Quote Damn Phil you must drive like a grannie. Yes, I do! I ride even slower than I drive, too STR has changed a lot in the last few years as well. Last I was there was for an AFF eval jump with Billy Rhodes and they only had a Cessna doing tandems - no more Caravan.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #117 December 16, 2007 If there is a priority issue can you make reservations or do you just sort of hang out until the slaves (staff) need to take a break. You still swooping? One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemmingBoy 0 #118 December 21, 2007 QuoteI always wondered why it is the guys from the Academy come to Longmont and jump. Because it felt like we were the only ones at calhan (and many times we were), are supposed to only jump at USPA dropzones, and the diffrence in driving to Denver and Canon City isn't a factor since spending the night in Denver has much better opportunities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #119 December 21, 2007 I guess thats the answer Sartre. I didn't even see the question until just now, but I wouldn't know...yet My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #120 December 22, 2007 ...and you and I both know what kind of opportunities he's referring to!!As for Calhan, I wwanted to jump there. It closed down before I got the opportunity. I thought it sounded like it had potential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #121 December 22, 2007 Quote ...and you and I both know what kind of opportunities he's referring to!! No, I'm totally innocent. was he talking about the sushi resturants or maybe the tunnel? I have no idea what opportunities could be had in Denver but if he's talking opportunities to get on the mic and John Denver karaoke night I may skip it.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites