allaxis.ca 0 #76 December 11, 2007 Well, it does stray from the original enough as to not confuse people, while it does maintain some 'original content'. The usage of a different color and the inclusion of additional text would surely give the impression that it in now way is associated with dz.com. I'm thinking if we simply drop the 'DOT' it really separates the designs and simply make a statement. Tell me, the pink, is that color the Pantone 212C or is it the web-safe #ff3399? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #77 December 11, 2007 Quote The Warn a Brother Shirt with the WB logo. My friend thats a cop wears that shirt. I love it!! As for the dropzone.bum shirts, i don't see what the big deal is. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #78 December 11, 2007 Quote As for the dropzone.bum shirts, i don't see what the big deal is. Maybe if he was a paying premium member it wouldn't matter to all the people bitching about him stealing from a "free" website. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #79 December 11, 2007 It would to me unless he talked to HH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #80 December 11, 2007 Quote Maybe if he was a paying premium member it wouldn't matter to all the people bitching about him stealing from a "free" website. Actually i think it's cause he's not one of the people in the 'in crowd' around here. Seems like those people get away with everything. I'd rather be around people like you and me that actually speak our mind whether it's the popular opinion or not. Kinda like junior high. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #81 December 12, 2007 QuoteWell, it does stray from the original enough as to not confuse people, while it does maintain some 'original content'. The usage of a different color and the inclusion of additional text would surely give the impression that it in now way is associated with dz.com. I'm thinking if we simply drop the 'DOT' it really separates the designs and simply make a statement. Tell me, the pink, is that color the Pantone 212C or is it the web-safe #ff3399? pm sent"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #82 December 12, 2007 I agree. I wonder how long the Conatser family would let me get away with making "Perris.bum" Tshirts, or how long Larry Hill would let me get away with making "Skydive Aridzona.bum" Tshirts. They've invested in building their brand. In a large coporate world, I don't agree that using a logo is as harmful as it is in a small boutique community, particularly when the exact/identical logo is used. I find the "Bounce" shirts quite clever, and have no problem with them, because even at a side glance, it's pretty obvious that it's not "Bounce" laundry products. Then again, I've also always been a pretty staunch defender of intellectual property rights, just google my name with "copyright" appended to the search. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #83 December 12, 2007 Quote ...and I’m honored to have a complete thread dedicated to one of my designs. It's not one of your designs. Without prejudice to my sentiments about your business ethics I have no intention of getting myself worked up about this. Lee from Velocty Sportswear wanted to do something similar a while ago. They showed me the courtesy of asking and I explained to them why I prefered they didn't. They respected that wish and I now hope people will spend money at their t-shirt store instead. Happy holidays all! Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allaxis.ca 0 #84 December 12, 2007 Thank you for your input and I recognize and appreciate your statements and the value of dz.com. I will no longer make that design available via the internet. Sincerely Mike X McKinlay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #85 December 12, 2007 Does that mean you will no longer make and sell them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #86 December 12, 2007 QuoteDoes that mean you will no longer make and sell them?no as he stated he wont make them available on the internet. he mentions NOTHING of not making themYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #87 December 12, 2007 Thanks for replying HH. This answers the questions I had on this and should answer things for everyone else as well. Happy Holidays to You and your family as well :) MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #88 December 12, 2007 I don't get it . . . This kind of backhanded "theft" seems rampant in this sport. One time back when Day Pacs that looked like rigs were cool I designed one that looked like a Velcro closed BASE container. I advertised it in my BASE Magazine, the Fixed Object Journal, and used it at the Perris DZ were I worked. A few weeks later the new Square One Catalog came out and it included my BASE Day Pac. When I confronted Tony at SQ1 about it he blew me off with, "Hey, that's how it is in the sewing biddniss!" As it wasn't patented it wasn't llegal but it stunk to high heaven nonetheless . . . I'm sure HH put an effort into his logo, and it means something to him, and it should be respected as such . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allaxis.ca 0 #89 December 17, 2007 QuoteI don't get it . . . This kind of backhanded "theft" seems rampant in this sport. *** oh relax. Dolphin. Wings. Teardrop. Racer. Reflex. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #90 December 17, 2007 Oh, when you put it that way, yeah I guess it's ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #91 December 17, 2007 Actually, do you not mean Javelin, Wings? After all i hear it was designed by the same person? You are a sad person if after knowing that it is not accepted by HH that you still continue selling them. Pretty sure ebay have rules about this? How about some respct to a fellow skydiver who puts alot of work into the skydiving community? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #92 December 17, 2007 post # 54 in this thread , is a long and extensive , "self- defense", which you composed... it concludes... " p.s. I'll always be a dropzone bum"..... .... you should set your sights waaaay higher than that... (edited to delete a longer treatise which upon reflection,,, wasn't necessary Or appropriate) ( thought it was an opinion,,, but it came accross to at least one,,, to be a rant...) ( wasn't my intention) jmy a3914 d12122 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pilotdave 0 #93 December 17, 2007 Wow... guess you don't want one of those shirts. Thats gotta be one of the stranger rants I've seen on a skydiving forum. A real dropzone bum couldn't afford a $35 t-shirt, so I think he's marketing it to wannabes. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #94 December 17, 2007 Can't say I agree with everything you said but I would say don't say you want to be a dropezone bum and then steal from other peoples hard work to make ends meet. As far as being a dz bum goes that is fine with me if that is what someone wants but don't bitch,whine and cry when you're broke in the winter or when the weather is bad and don't pitch a bitch when new people want to get ratings and work at the dz where you are.In 9 yrs of jumping I have seen almost no good come from someone wanting to "make a living" skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 4 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
CSpenceFLY 1 #90 December 17, 2007 Oh, when you put it that way, yeah I guess it's ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #91 December 17, 2007 Actually, do you not mean Javelin, Wings? After all i hear it was designed by the same person? You are a sad person if after knowing that it is not accepted by HH that you still continue selling them. Pretty sure ebay have rules about this? How about some respct to a fellow skydiver who puts alot of work into the skydiving community? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #92 December 17, 2007 post # 54 in this thread , is a long and extensive , "self- defense", which you composed... it concludes... " p.s. I'll always be a dropzone bum"..... .... you should set your sights waaaay higher than that... (edited to delete a longer treatise which upon reflection,,, wasn't necessary Or appropriate) ( thought it was an opinion,,, but it came accross to at least one,,, to be a rant...) ( wasn't my intention) jmy a3914 d12122 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #93 December 17, 2007 Wow... guess you don't want one of those shirts. Thats gotta be one of the stranger rants I've seen on a skydiving forum. A real dropzone bum couldn't afford a $35 t-shirt, so I think he's marketing it to wannabes. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #94 December 17, 2007 Can't say I agree with everything you said but I would say don't say you want to be a dropezone bum and then steal from other peoples hard work to make ends meet. As far as being a dz bum goes that is fine with me if that is what someone wants but don't bitch,whine and cry when you're broke in the winter or when the weather is bad and don't pitch a bitch when new people want to get ratings and work at the dz where you are.In 9 yrs of jumping I have seen almost no good come from someone wanting to "make a living" skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
