popsjumper 2 #26 December 9, 2007 Quote That or a boat load of 182's! A formation of Fokkers?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #27 December 9, 2007 I couldn't tell you about the planes in the photos. I just know what I went through while looking for a plane for a former employer. Many times you will see the same plane for sale by multiple brokers with different prices. They will want a deposit before you know where the plane is or what the N-number is..(kind of like Skyride). The reason for this is usually there is no contract between the seller and broker. Also any asshat can decide to be an aircraft broker tonight and be in business by tomorrow morning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #28 December 9, 2007 QuoteQuoteSkydive Spaceland? That's the hangar... I think the third one is Skydive Tecumseh's Otter they bought from Skydive Chicago a few years ago (same fleet paint job)."Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #29 December 10, 2007 QuoteI couldn't tell you about the planes in the photos. I just know what I went through while looking for a plane for a former employer. Many times you will see the same plane for sale by multiple brokers with different prices. They will want a deposit before you know where the plane is or what the N-number is..(kind of like Skyride). The reason for this is usually there is no contract between the seller and broker. Also any asshat can decide to be an aircraft broker tonight and be in business by tomorrow morning. wow, when i bought my aircraft, (granted it was not N# at the time) is was like buying a car, no big deal. but, then again, i only have 64 hp and no windshield! ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #30 December 10, 2007 I bet it didn't cost 1.2 mil. either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #31 December 10, 2007 A collection of (aeronca) Champs?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllisonH 0 #32 December 10, 2007 Quote I think the third one is Skydive Tecumseh's Otter they bought from Skydive Chicago a few years ago (same fleet paint job). Skydive Tecumseh hasn't had the Otter since last spring. I'm not sure where it went, but Tecumseh now has a Caravan which is spending the winter in Austin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J_Cook 0 #33 December 10, 2007 The third one is Skydive Tecumseh's old Twin Otter. I can tell by the background in the pictures, and more importantly the sticker that says "Skydive Tecumseh" (on the door in the third pic). As was said earlier, the owners sold it and got a caravan. I thought I heard it was going to Japan though, so... yeah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #34 December 10, 2007 N numbers are specific to US registered aircraft. If an aircraft is registered anywhere else it will not have one. As far as them being listed in Ontario, there are only two Otters in Canada rigged for jumping that I have heard of. The one in Burnaby is an American hull on lease; I am not sure of the one operating out of Quebec. The Original Twin Otter Manufacturing facility is in Toronto, I wouldn't be surprised if they still do considerable maintenance around there. US aircraft could be sitting there after (or pending) major structural maintenance. Of course I am just speculating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpoutnow 0 #35 December 10, 2007 Ok. Here is the scoop. Two of the Twin Otters are owned by Spaceland or agents thereof. The other is owned by another guy that I can't mention. (sworn to secrecy) The airplanes are being brokered by a guy in Canada. All three are in the USA and being used for skydiving. They are not all in the same fleet. The N number has been hidden so prospective buyers can't find the actual owner(s) by an N number search. Supply and demand drives the price. Or as the seller or broker would call it, "Market driven price" Brokers get about 3-5 per cent of selling price. Go figure. People are crazy. Cuz there's more of 'em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #36 December 10, 2007 Quote Quote That or a boat load of 182's! A formation of Fokkers? Popsjumper........... shouldn't that be a "Flock of Fokkers???"thanks to all for details about N #'s jt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longtall 0 #37 December 10, 2007 a peck of pac's.................................J..............." 90 right, five miles then cut."---Pukin Buzzards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #38 December 10, 2007 QuoteI bet it didn't cost 1.2 mil. either. no it didnt, that was my point. strange though how loose the realtionship between the broker and owner is, or is reported to be. when i do real estate/spec deals, i demand more straight up agreements. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HSPScott 0 #39 December 10, 2007 Add the caravan http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft-for-sale/CESSNA-CARAVAN-208B-GRAND/1994-CESSNA-CARAVAN-208B-GRAND/1120532.htm?guid=889D83D2F06A4C9CA116D8229CEFE4B4 Don't know how to do clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #40 December 10, 2007 Quote Quote That or a boat load of 182's! A formation of Fokkers? No! Those Fokkers were Messerschmidts! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #41 December 10, 2007 a muster of Messerschmidts? "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyblu3 0 #42 December 10, 2007 Quote Quote That or a boat load of 182's! A formation of Fokkers? A fuck load of Fokkers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #43 December 10, 2007 Quote Quote Quote That or a boat load of 182's! A formation of Fokkers? A fuck load of Fokkers! A krap load of King Airs???You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #44 December 10, 2007 Quote a muster of Messerschmidts? Is that like a crapload of Caravans? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #45 December 10, 2007 Several Senecas Mass Quantities of Maules A Stash of Stinsons An Assload of Aerostars A Number of Navajos A Case of CardinalsI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #46 December 10, 2007 A bushload of Beavers?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #47 December 10, 2007 A ton of Tri Motors? A sack of SuperConnie's? This also could be a case where just the airplane owner will change and the leasee just pays someone else. Kinda like when you buy a rental property or when your mortage is sold. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #48 December 10, 2007 Hey Kevin, Steve buys and sells airplanes all the time. Usually he never has to actuall take possesion of them befroe they are sold again. I don't know steve that well, but do know him to be a great businessman. The otters are probably ALWAYS for sale at the right price. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #49 December 10, 2007 I bet the entire DZ is for sale. Every single thing there from the planes, the gear, the land...all the way down to the packers. All for the right price.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #50 December 10, 2007 Quote Several Senecas Mass Quantities of Maules A Stash of Stinsons An Assload of Aerostars A Number of Navajos A Case of Cardinals I always learn something here!Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
