wildcard451 0 #1 December 2, 2007 Uh....now what guys? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 December 2, 2007 Huh, yeah, since Mizzou, who I thought was a top team this year, folded against OU (again). Atleast it looks like 8 teams from the Big 12 will be in bowl games it still shows that its a tough conference. Hawaii is undefeated, but their team isn't worth of one of the major bowl games and had a fairly laughable schedule. Who knows with all the computer calculations to come even Sam Houston State has a chance with those crazy computers. Another year that shows the need to have a playoff season.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #3 December 2, 2007 Ohio State v LSU is what every talking head seems to be saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #4 December 2, 2007 QuoteOhio State v LSU is what every talking head seems to be saying That's what I heard as well. I think I'd go with Hawaii-Kansas. Ohio State lost at home to Illinois three weeks ago, which wouldn't be so bad if this were basketball. Kansas' only loss was to Mizzou...who was ranked #1 going into the last week of the regular season. Hawaii beat all comers, included one ranked opponent (Boise State). Anyone who watched last year's Fiesta Bowl knows that such a game can be VERY entertaining, and I personally think we ought to reward the teams who brought it every single week. Who better than Hawaii and Kansas can make that claim? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #5 December 2, 2007 After watching Hawaii yesterday, I don't think they'd do very well against LSU, Ohio State or any of the other top contenders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #6 December 2, 2007 QuoteAfter watching Hawaii yesterday, I don't think they'd do very well against LSU, Ohio State or any of the other top contenders. Yeah, starting out down 21-0 with 3 lost fumbles in the first quarter didn't do much to bolster their claims. Outscoring a PAC-10 opponent 35-7 thereafter was a bit more like what we expected to see. Personally, I tip my head first to undefeated teams, and second to teams with minimal losses to highly ranked opponents. Hawaii beat all comers and Kansas' only loss was to a team ranked #4 at the time. Ohio State's loss was to a lesser opponent, but I suppose the argument could be made in their favor (as much as I can't stand 'em). LSU lost to Arkansas and Kentucky...where are those two teams in the polls? Hawaii certainly didn't have the toughest schedule, but they *did their job* every week of the season. No other team can make that claim. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grannyinthesky 0 #7 December 2, 2007 WAC teams like Hawaii and BSU are getting some respect for a reason. The Fiesta Bowl is a great example of why."safety first... and What the hell..... safety second, Too!!! " ~~jmy POPS #10490 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #8 December 2, 2007 i tend to agree with you, although, as a boise state student i may be biased. I do think that if you go out and win every time you hit the field, you should be national champion. right now, if you aren't part of the bcs in-crowd, you have no chance to be named number one. this is bullshit. teams can only beat the teams that they play. if they aren't going to be given a chance to compete for the top spot, they shouldn't be allowed in the division. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panic-button 0 #9 December 2, 2007 Ohio St & Georgia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpastniner 0 #10 December 2, 2007 I would love for osu to play hawaii...even tho i know itl never happen lolBASE 1384 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #11 December 2, 2007 Quote Ohio St & Georgia That would probably be the best matchup. Georgia's the hottest team right now. Clicking on all cylinders since their last loss some 6 weeks ago. I wish they'd moved up to #2 behind OSU, as they were 3rd and 4th last week. Georgia would beat Ohio State easily. LSU would have a harder time as their defense is battered and tired, but it might be entertaining. All that said, this is the most fucked up season I have EVER seen. Three times the top two teams lost on the same weekend this year! The last time that happened before this weekend I think was 1996 or 1998. 7 times the #2 team lost, 6 of those to unranked teams. LSU lost both of their games as the #1 team, each time in triple OT. Only 3 other schools have lost twice in the same season as the #1 team in history. This is the best example of what a playoff system would fix and quiet down the complaints from those that got screwed. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpastniner 0 #12 December 2, 2007 Quote Quote Ohio St & Georgia This is the best example of what a playoff system would fix and quiet down the complaints from those that got screwed. A playoff system is definatly needed, but people have been saying that for years...i just dont see it happening. You cant really get a stronger argument than this season though so we'll see what happens.BASE 1384 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #13 December 2, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Ohio St & Georgia This is the best example of what a playoff system would fix and quiet down the complaints from those that got screwed. A playoff system is definatly needed, but people have been saying that for years...i just dont see it happening. You cant really get a stronger argument than this season though so we'll see what happens. Yeah, and there's the matter of bowl-tie-in contracts and the way the BCS bowls are set up. Going to be hard to get the deep pockets to just scrap all that."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #14 December 2, 2007 QuoteOhio St & Georgia Why not Kansas? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #15 December 3, 2007 QuoteQuoteOhio St & Georgia Why not Kansas? Blues, Dave Yeah, why not? They're the only other one loss team left. Although they lost last week, so did LSU. However, look what LSU did this year, they went 6-1 against ranked opponents. Kansas's schedule was nowhere near that strong."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #16 December 3, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteOhio St & Georgia Why not Kansas? Blues, Dave Yeah, why not? They're the only other one loss team left. Although they lost last week, so did LSU. However, look what LSU did this year, they went 6-1 against ranked opponents. Kansas's schedule was nowhere near that strong. Not Georgia or Kansas as they did not win a conference championship, which I think really should be a must to even get to the "Ship" game. Besides they announced a few minutes ago, Ohio State vs. LSU.... Looks like OSU is going get the crap kicked out of them this year again by the SEC. Mind you, I am a Hokie but no matter how I looked at it, starting the weekend ranked 1 spot higher and given they (Hokies) won the ACC, LSU Kicked the living crap out of the Hokies and as much as I hate to say it are probably the team that should be there. I think USC v LSU might be a better game but it is what it is.. I have to say I like the match Up between Hokies v Kansas, GO HOKIES! Win and get a final ranking of #2 for 2007 season Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #17 December 3, 2007 what exactly is a hokie? "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFKING 4 #18 December 3, 2007 Quotewhat exactly is a hokie? Nothing, really.......just a term like "hooray" or "rah rah rah". Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #19 December 3, 2007 Quote Not Georgia or Kansas as they did not win a conference championship, which I think really should be a must to even get to the "Ship" game. I hear ya (pun intended ) but didn't Nebraska once get into the national championship game despite LOSING their Big 12 championship game? I could never understand that, and yeah I think Nebraska lost the national title game. I'd have to go back and research it to be sure. So it seems to have been done before."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #20 December 3, 2007 Quotewhat exactly is a hokie? http://www.vt.edu/about/hokie.php Or from Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokie_Bird GO HOKIES!!! Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #21 December 3, 2007 i've looked it up before, i was just messing with you a little. one of my best friends is a hokie and i can't get him to answer that question either, but at least you gave me a link. he just tells me he doesn't know. i'll be chearing for them in the orange bowl even though i've been against them all season. its ok that a hokiebird is really just a turkey. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #22 December 3, 2007 Quote but didn't Nebraska once get into the national championship game despite LOSING their Big 12 championship game? I could never understand that, and yeah I think Nebraska lost the national title game. I'd have to go back and research it to be sure. So it seems to have been done before. In 2001 Nebraska lost to the CU Buffs 62-36 in the last game of their regular season. It was not the Big XII championships. CU went on to upset Texas in the Big XII that season. But the Huskers were undefeated going into that last game and I believe they were ranked as #1 before the game. When you get beat by 26 points by a so called inferior team, you don't normally get invited to the big show, but the Huskers were invited to the National Championship title game anyway. Go figure. and ... Nebraska then lost to Miami in the Rose Bowl 37-14. PS: LSU is as good as any team when it comes to who should play Ohio State for all the marbles. But I still say the top 8 teams could take part in a playoff system and while still preserving much of the Bowl season games. But what do I know? The NCAA won't listen to anyone. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 130 #23 December 3, 2007 LSU vs. Ohio are probably the best picks to make a good game Georgia will kick Hawaii then they can shut up about being undefeated a playoff will never work due to the physical nature of the game, lose one guy and things change quickly, that will just give us something else to argue about - well if so and so had not been hurt then----Give one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFKING 4 #24 December 3, 2007 QuoteBut I still say the top 8 teams could take part in a playoff system Top 16, or Top 12 with a bye-week for the first 4 seeds. Only adds one more week, plus it lets in undefeateds from lesser conferences who may be ranked around 9-12, so NOBODY can bitch about being left out. With a playoff system, Boise State might have been champions last year. Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #25 December 3, 2007 QuoteLSU vs. Ohio are probably the best picks to make a good game Georgia will kick Hawaii then they can shut up about being undefeated a playoff will never work due to the physical nature of the game, lose one guy and things change quickly, that will just give us something else to argue about - well if so and so had not been hurt then---- That's true. If they want a playoff, there has to be some concessions to the length of the regular season. I know teams used to play just 10 games back in the old days. Then 11 games became the norm. Lately now it's been 12 games. That plus a conference championship game for some teams, plus a bowl game, and that's 14 games. Too many to have a playoff in addition to. Cut the season back to 10 games and maybe, just maybe a playoff could have a little merit."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
