normiss 858 #1 November 29, 2007 Sony Blu-Ray (I effin HATE Sony!!!) or the Toshiba "industry standard" HDDVD? It's Beta vs. VHS all over again isn't it??? I'm just starting to look at the new players...whilst drooling over the new Yamaha! damn!!!!! makes my current Yamaha look like a mere toy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 November 29, 2007 Neither is a clear "winner" The isue is that there are so many titles exclusive to just one format that if you want to watch HD you almost need both players. Planet Earth is about the only thing out there that did it right and released it in both formats, everything else is based on which studio published it.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #3 November 29, 2007 DSE mentions the format wars occasionally and seems to think Blu-Ray might be doing better then HD-DVD... and... damn... that yamaha is nice... edited to add... that like phree said there isn't really a winner just losers (and that would be the consumer... ) Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #4 November 29, 2007 Quote damn!!!!! makes my current Yamaha look like a mere toy... Yeah, but you still have cool toys. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #5 November 29, 2007 except for needing to purchase more speakers and another subwoofer, plus it's $2,000 more than the last Yamaha I bought... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 November 29, 2007 My personal opinion is that at this very moment in time, Blu-ray has a "slight" advantage because some people have figured out you can buy a PSP and play them. Right now, that's the least expensive Blu-ray player out there and you get a game console tossed in for "free". quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #7 November 29, 2007 I think you meant PS3 I have heard that Blu-ray has a slight edge...partially because of the PS3's ability to play them straight out of the box. I have a PS3 but only 1 blu-ray movie -- they're too expensive and the selection is kind of lacking at the moment (same for hd-dvd, there aren't enough movies to warrant buying even the 360 add-on). Also, while I love hi-def, I am not about to spend 30 bucks a disk to re-buy movies I already have on standard DVD. I heard in Europe, Blu-ray is killing HD-DVD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #8 November 29, 2007 For Europe it's Blu-ray: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/35043/98/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 November 29, 2007 Quote I think you meant PS3 Hehe . . . yes . . . obviously.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #10 November 29, 2007 unlike the beta-vhs debacle however, the media for both is the same size. universal players are already here, though expensive. they'll come down, and you won't have to chose. "Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #11 November 29, 2007 BUY??? Net Flix.....once HD DVD (what ever flavor) is the standard.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harksaw 0 #12 November 29, 2007 Blu-Ray has consistently sold more movies. See attached image. Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_high_definition_optical_disc_formats__________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #13 November 29, 2007 Quote unlike the beta-vhs debacle however, the media for both is the same size. universal players are already here, though expensive. they'll come down, and you won't have to chose. I'm glad to see that the consortium hasn't been entirely successful in preventing dual format players...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panic-button 0 #14 November 29, 2007 The main down fall for Blu-Ray is the stance they will not let the Porn industry release any movies on the format, and HD-DVD doesn't have an issue with Porn. This is the same Sony downfall as beta-vhs, Sony did the same thing in the 70's and they lost out. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070112-8602.html http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2085645,00.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,079 #15 November 29, 2007 > The main down fall for Blu-Ray is the stance they will not let the > Porn industry release any movies on the format . . . Uh, how do they prevent that? You can get Blu-Ray burners now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #16 November 29, 2007 Sony has stated their format is available to all genres ... so it would seem that wouldn't stop anything... who REALLY wants to see porn in HD anyway??? isn't that like seeing tittie dancers in daylight??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,079 #17 November 29, 2007 >who REALLY wants to see porn in HD anyway? Apparently there's a market. I mean, who wants to see sitcoms in HD? Does it even matter? But there's a market for that too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian425 0 #18 November 30, 2007 You can have a HDDVD player for less than $200. I got a Toshiba A2 for $99.99 with 5 free movies for my sister. I then saw the Toshiba A3 for $199 with 10 free movies. I don't see how you can go wrong. One advantage that HDDVD has is it is backward compatible with regular DVD (SDDVD). Another advantage; but of limited appeal to everyone is that HDDVD has a functioning ethernet port. This can be used for firmware updates or for the web enabled features of the new movies. The war is not dead. I went HDDVD over Blu-Ray due to cost. The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #19 November 30, 2007 Bluray is outselling HD DVD 3 to 1 in Europe right now. So my feeling is blue ray is gonna win. OR there gonna kiss and make up and make ONE standard. but even if that happened tomorow its gonna take 18+ months to get it all squared away...so here we are at the stalemate. Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slowfaller 0 #20 November 30, 2007 Quote One advantage that HDDVD has is it is backward compatible with regular DVD (SDDVD) Not sure where you got this info but my bluray player upscales SD DVDs a lot better than my HD DVD playerAlso, while walmart did have an awesome sale on A2's for $98.99 w/ 5 movies via mail in rebate, two weeks later they were selling ps3's that included 10 free blurays instantly as well as a mail in rebate for 5 more. Personally I think both formats will be around for quite a while, I don't see any winners in the near future. --"Someday you will die and somehow somethings going to steal your carbon" -MM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian425 0 #21 November 30, 2007 Quote Quote One advantage that HDDVD has is it is backward compatible with regular DVD (SDDVD) Not sure where you got this info but my bluray player upscales SD DVDs a lot better than my HD DVD playerMea Culpa, Mea Culpa. I stand corrected. I did a little more research and you are correct. HMM, now to find myself a good deal on a blu-ray player. The only time you should look down on someone is when you are offering them your hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
