billvon 3,067 #76 November 29, 2007 >Why is that depressing? For the reason that Cyndi stated - that it pressures some women into being unhappy with their bodies. >If all the other guys prefer the "altered" women, then that means you >get to have all the "unaltered" women to yourself. That's true! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #77 November 29, 2007 Quote>Why is that depressing? For the reason that Cyndi stated - that it pressures some women into being unhappy with their bodies. Then the problem has little to do with what men prefer; it has to do with women letting their self-worth be determined by what men prefer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,067 #78 November 29, 2007 >Then the problem has little to do with what men prefer; it has to do >with women letting their self-worth be determined by what men prefer. True. But that's true of everything. For example, it is certainly true that insults should not hurt you (unless you're insecure) - but I still hope people would tend to err on the side of courtesy, because insults _do_ often make other people feel bad (and cause them to react poorly to the insulter.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #79 November 29, 2007 Quote Then the problem has little to do with what men prefer; it has to do with women letting their self-worth be determined by what men prefer. Why is that a problem?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #80 November 29, 2007 Quote>Then the problem has little to do with what men prefer; it has to do >with women letting their self-worth be determined by what men prefer. True. But that's true of everything. For example, it is certainly true that insults should not hurt you (unless you're insecure) - but I still hope people would tend to err on the side of courtesy, because insults _do_ often make other people feel bad (and cause them to react poorly to the insulter.) That's a poor analogy. An insult is generally intended to hurt someone. But a man prefers something because... well, because he prefers it, not because he is intentionally trying to make women feel insecure about themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #81 November 29, 2007 Quote That's a poor analogy. An insult is generally intended to hurt someone. But a man prefers something because... well, because he prefers it, not because he is intentionally trying to make women feel insecure about themselves. Right . . . so why is a problem that she wants to adjust herself to please him?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #82 November 29, 2007 QuoteRight . . . so why is a problem that she wants to adjust herself to please him? It's not a problem, if that's what she wants to do. But if she feels miserable because she can't live up to his expectations, then it might be a problem (her problem, not his). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #83 November 29, 2007 Quote Quote Right . . . so why is a problem that she wants to adjust herself to please him? It's not a problem, if that's what she wants to do. But if she feels miserable because she can't live up to his expectations, then it might be a problem (her problem, not his). And yet the guy will be berated because of his insensitivity to this.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #84 November 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Right . . . so why is a problem that she wants to adjust herself to please him? It's not a problem, if that's what she wants to do. But if she feels miserable because she can't live up to his expectations, then it might be a problem (her problem, not his). And yet the guy will be berated because of his insensitivity to this. Not by me. I'm sure I can find a much better reason to berate the guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #85 November 29, 2007 Quote YOU'RE GOING DOWN MONKEYBOY! OK, what's the bet? And of course, you have to go first.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #86 November 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Right . . . so why is a problem that she wants to adjust herself to please him? It's not a problem, if that's what she wants to do. But if she feels miserable because she can't live up to his expectations, then it might be a problem (her problem, not his). And yet the guy will be berated because of his insensitivity to this. Not by me. I'm sure I can find a much better reason to berate the guy. For instance?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #87 November 29, 2007 Quote And how many of today's women accept a man being a man? Lord knows I do. But, it does annoy me when Cruz is squatted to poo and Billy makes a fart sound with his mouth.But, since we're talking stupid things to turn one's nose up to, I'm going with men who wear turtlenecks. Men should never wear turtlenecks! Jackets that zip up to the chin are acceptable. That is all. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #88 November 29, 2007 Quote Quote Not by me. I'm sure I can find a much better reason to berate the guy. For instance? Asking too many questions would be a good reason, for starters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #89 November 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Not by me. I'm sure I can find a much better reason to berate the guy. For instance? Asking too many questions would be a good reason, for starters. Really?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brittentay 0 #90 November 30, 2007 LOL get here and do it yourself!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #91 November 30, 2007 Quote Quote How many of you would even look twice at an old, fat guy? This is a question that may not be appropriate for a public forum. Probably best handled by PMs to me, with attached pics. Now Bill, you know I wear glasses. Both with and without them that reads the same way. Either, a) I'm reading it wrong, or b) there's something about you I didn't know. Sorry dude, I don't have any pictures of old, fat guys. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #92 November 30, 2007 I think it was a statement to the girls that would look twice at an old, fat guy and that they (meaning those girls) should pm him... and with pictures. (so that he can make sure that she doesn't have hairy arms ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #93 November 30, 2007 I like the way my arm hairs bleach out in the summertime. I shave the hairs that don't....and sometimes (when time permits) the ones that do bleach but feel icky on my sheets at night. There's also exfoliator that smooths the skin that feels not quite right that you're in.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denete 3 #94 November 30, 2007 For the record, I like women...period. Hairy, smooth, tiny, big, boring, kinky, whatever. It's all the same to me. Yeah, I'm picky, but not about little stuff like that. And yes, I am a fat balding guy. But, I'm only 39. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #95 November 30, 2007 Quote ...And yes, I am a fat balding guy. But, I'm only 39. I think Happythoughts wants pictures. David. Don't you DARE post them publicly here. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #96 November 30, 2007 Quote I think it was a statement to the girls that would look twice at an old, fat guy and that they (meaning those girls) should pm him... and with pictures. (so that he can make sure that she doesn't have hairy arms ) Thanks for straightening that out. Sometimes, the elderly are confused so easily. Once he stopped on a street corner because it said "Stop here when flashing". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #97 November 30, 2007 I had a gurl break up with me because she didnt like the way I braided my back hair. She kept insisting I get it lasered off, I said I would compromise and unbraid it and get it permed into a back afro. Needless to say she left, what a shallow bitch.....Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites