Ripple 0 #1 November 8, 2007 Hey, do you guys know about the controversy surrounding Aspartame? What d'you think about it? Is it true? I'm going through a pretty radical life style change. Part of this is eating healthily which, for me, means avoiding additives and as much processed foods as possible, so I'll be avoiding Aspartame anyway, but I'm interested to know what other people think of the product and if they avoid it or not. Couple of sites against the product:- sweetpoison.com mercola.comNext Mood Swing: 6 minutes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kid_Icarus 0 #2 November 8, 2007 I avoid aspartame and high fructose corn syrup like the plague. Soda is bad for you period. Most "diet' or "low fat" foods are far worse for you then regular (like yogurt, so cream, soda, ice cream etc...) Artificial anything is pretty much not good for your body. For the most part... if it's man made (ie not natural sugars, fats, etc), your body doesn't have the ability to process it correctly. Also, switch all dairy products to organic milk based items. They put some weird shit in milk... I eat meat and some crap, but it's all the little choices that make a difference. ________________________________________ "What What..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripple 0 #3 November 8, 2007 Yeppers, I've never drunk sodas and I'm avoiding anything that isn't plant based, so milk is out - but chocolate is in! Hurrah! Seriously, it's kinda frightening what's approved by the powers that're meant to be looking out for us....Next Mood Swing: 6 minutes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndh1 0 #4 November 8, 2007 I've read enough on aspartame that I try to stay away from it too. The only thing I won't give up is my Trident White gum, but I actually cut back on that - when I did, I realized how much the aspartame had affected me. Still, I take in too much sugar - sweet tea is my biggie, but I am in great shape, and I do enough to counter my vices otherwise.Roll Tide Roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripple 0 #5 November 8, 2007 Thanks John. How about using honey in your tea? Um, is it common knowledge about Aspartame in the States? No one here (England) really seems to know much about it.... I feel a campaign coming on!Next Mood Swing: 6 minutes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #6 November 8, 2007 How did the aspartame affect you? ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shortyj 0 #7 November 8, 2007 The FDA is NOT your friend. They approve all kinds of bad stuff then years later come out and say it's bad. Playtime is essential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #8 November 8, 2007 Quote I avoid aspartame and high fructose corn syrup like the plague...Most "diet' or "low fat" foods are far worse for you then regular...Artificial anything is pretty much not good for your body. Amen. I pay little to no attention to calories or fat grams or anything in the nutritional information box. I am, however, an obsessive ingredient-reader. It's annoying sometimes when people don't understand this concept. Not only are Splenda-made foods worse for you, they taste worse. Why the hell do I want a piece of Splenda pie? No thanks, Aunt Sally. I'll have a piece of Uncle Ted's rich, delicious, old-fashioned pumpkin pie.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #9 November 8, 2007 Quote but I am in great shape, and I do enough to counter my vices otherwise. That's my logic, too. It's red wine for me (preferably a cheap Pinot Noir). And champagne or "sparkling wine" as it were. 'Tis the season. Pour me some bubbly! Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #10 November 8, 2007 Quote The FDA is NOT your friend. They approve all kinds of bad stuff then years later come out and say it's bad. They aren't your enemy either. If there are turnarounds that are separated by "years", then possibly the time or technology to check things out then wasn't up to today's standards. You got to watch how those "new age" types advertise. They have no choice but to bash the FDA due to no real ability to come up with measurable superiority of their products (other than it costs a lot more). Same with bashing doctors._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 November 8, 2007 I hope you all realize that, to most whuffos, the concept of a "health conscious skydiver" is quite the oxymoron. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #12 November 8, 2007 Quote Quote The FDA is NOT your friend. They approve all kinds of bad stuff then years later come out and say it's bad. They aren't your enemy either. If there are turnarounds that are separated by "years", then possibly the time or technology to check things out then wasn't up to today's standards. Strongly concur. Blantantly cut from an old post of mine in SC: I bet you & others here could cite the case of thalidomide babies as an example of where US FDA provided a protective service -- friend to lots of mothers and children in the 1950s -- which was largely due to one, stubborn in a very good way, FDA scientist-chick who refused to approve the sale/use in the US. Europe, which is now frequently regarded a more regulatory or actively employing the 'precautionary principle," did not prohibit thalidomide ... Another example is the recent adulterated pet foods and toothpaste from China. FDA regulations help keep melamine- and ethylene glycol (anti-freeze) contaminated products out of the US. As much as an impact as the contaminated pet foods had on the pet owners, another diethylene glycol (used because it's cheaper than non-toxic glycerin) in other products from China, e.g., cough syrup, has likely killed thousands in places like Bangladesh & Panama. NY Times did an an expose a few months back: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/world/americas/06poison.html?ex=1182139200&en=2196679c766f38b1&ei=5070, although it's been a suspected or identified problem for years ... just didn't have dying American cats and dogs to get the public's attention.VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #13 November 9, 2007 QuoteHey, do you guys know about the controversy surrounding Aspartame? What d'you think about it? Is it true? It's one of the safest substances out there even if you're one of those people that drinks a case (24 cans) of diet coke a day. For the rest of us who limit ourselves to just a six pack or two it's even safer. http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #14 November 9, 2007 QuoteI avoid aspartame and high fructose corn syrup like the plague. Soda is bad for you period. Most "diet' or "low fat" foods are far worse for you then regular (like yogurt, so cream, soda, ice cream etc...) Artificial anything is pretty much not good for your body. For the most part... if it's man made (ie not natural sugars, fats, etc), your body doesn't have the ability to process it correctly. Also, switch all dairy products to organic milk based items. They put some weird shit in milk... I eat meat and some crap, but it's all the little choices that make a difference. You drink 6 cans of coke a day and that's 900 calories. You're going to get fat if you're not very active. You drink 6 cans of diet coke a day and that's 0 calories. Harmless as long as you don't hit the snack machine next to the soda machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC07 0 #15 November 9, 2007 One word - Stevia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #16 November 9, 2007 Here are some more sites about aspartame: http://www.aspartame.net/rumors/Aspartame_and_the_Internet.asp http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/qa-adf9.html http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.265/healthissue_detail.asp Evidently some of the claims of the danger of aspartame are overhyped. Especially by people trying to sell "Aspartame Detox" medicines. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BGill 0 #17 November 9, 2007 Quote The FDA is NOT your friend. They approve all kinds of bad stuff then years later come out and say it's bad. Careful, some dz.commers might work for the FDA. *cough* me *cough* ...but I work with medical devices, so I know nothing about food issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndh1 0 #18 November 10, 2007 QuoteHow did the aspartame affect you? Sorry for the delayed response - my internet has been out. So much for DSL being so much better than satellite. For one thing, it gave me a little extra gas, and I felt bloated or "heavy" a lot. I don't know if it would make sense, but if you are a SCUBA diver, if you've ever been down for a good while, there's a weird feeling sometimes when you come up - it does that to me anyway - especially when I may have come up a little too fast. It's sort of like this weird buildup in the blood and joints that would seem to be a very, very minor sympton of the bends. That's the best way I can describe it. I like Chardonnay (and Jack, and Heineken, and Bloody Marys...) but you know how wine gives you that flowing feeling that you feel all over when you've had plenty? (does me anyway) Well, think of that good feeling in reverse, bad, and that's what I realized it was doing to me after I really cut back on it. Kinda like you don't realize your tires are out of line until someone else drives your car. Plus headaches.Roll Tide Roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #19 November 10, 2007 Chocolate has lots of additives too. But, if you really want a treat, try raw cacao. It's the raw, untouched, unadulterated chocolate. Pm me if you would like to chat about becoming a vegan. I'll tell you all about my journey as a raw foodist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivermom 0 #20 November 10, 2007 Quote One word - Stevia. __________________________________________________ A great big DITTO for that one! I LOVE that stuff. It is not FDA approved as a sweetener, so that means it's A Okay in my bookMrs. WaltAppel All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivermom 0 #21 November 10, 2007 I know this is an "Aspartame" thread, but you mentioned milk. I use organic rice milk? What do you think about that?Mrs. WaltAppel All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #22 November 10, 2007 Quote It's the raw, untouched, unadulterated chocolate. "Unadulterated" just sound so puritanical. I like mine with lots of adultery."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivermom 0 #23 November 10, 2007 Quote Quote It's the raw, untouched, unadulterated chocolate. "Unadulterated" just sound so puritanical. I like mine with lots of adultery. Reminds me of something I take every day: Organic Raw VIRGIN coconut oil .....How about Apple cider vinegar with MOTHER?Mrs. WaltAppel All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndh1 0 #24 November 10, 2007 [reply .....How about Apple cider vinegar with MOTHER? I take it EVERY day. I have older (50+) friends (I am 35) who I got to start, and they credit it with changing their lives and health. I started out with putting it in low-sodium V-8, but now a tablespoon in water, with a splash of lemon juice. I make up spent bottles of water and keep them in the refrigerator. Not a tablespoon in each small bottle, but a little more than that altogether in 5 or 6 bottles all day long. It's the cure-all for just about anything, if you ask me. The Roman Army thought so. I have so many people in my health club (part-time trainer here) on the stuff, and they love me for it. One thing, though, I realized recently: I had gotten so used to it that I could take a shot of it if I were too full (after Mexican food, for example) to take the whole bottle of water. This is a BIG NO-NO! It's TERRIBLE for your teeth when so concentrated. Never, never drink it straight.Roll Tide Roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 November 10, 2007 What's "MOTHER"?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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