Hydrocodone

[warpedskydiver 0]

Why is it people do not ask questions of their doctor?

Look vicodin is nasty and has long term effects on your health and ability to tolerate pain.

It is addictive, has a diminishing effectiveness, and causes GI problems.

There are qute a few non narcotic options availible.

I personally take tramadol, for me it is effective enough to take away just enough pain where I can get by, without too much of a problem.

I chose to feel some pain in order to know if I am aggravating my problems.

If the pain becomes more than I should have to deal with, I can go back to taking a full dosage daily, or even double up without much of a problem other than feeling warm, extremely thirsty, and a bit ill.

There are meds that may or may not work for you, everyone is different.

An anti inflamatory like anaprox can help the effectiveness of non narcotics.

I have a close friend that had been on meds so long that he spent a months time locked up in a hospital to be weaned off of oxycontin, and fentanyl.

Unfortunatly they did not have a protocol for weaning him off the fentanyl and he was again hospitalized, and really felt like dying.

I hope this information helps someone.

Pain meds are not fun at all.

[JohnMitchell 16]

Maybe it's a migraine headache and the nausea is a result of the headache, not the medicine.

I hope you're feeling better.

[Andy9o8 2]

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My god, don't you know there are more effective medicines around?

Like?

The doc didn't ask my opinion when she wrote the prescription.

You made this post almost 24 hours after your OP. I'm wondering how many doctors or pharmacists you have spoken to during that time.

[fireman 0]

hydrocone causes rebound headaches (migranes also). hydrocodone can cause severe nausea, espeacially when abused.

[kbordson 8]

Hey Lisa

I didn't want to reply cuz pain meds are their own little enigma. Sometimes this pill works for this person and other times you might see a paradoxical response. Now do we typically see that kind of a change in such a short period, no. But... anything can happen. Other things that can change it include recent meals or liquids (esp Grapefruit juice), antacids and other medications (including antihistamines) and herbal meds (St. Johns Wort and Valerian). And so with all this variability, I didn't want to be chastized for talking out my butt (as someone already has chosen to do that)

What I can tell you:
Hydrocodone side effects

And that all medicines have risks and all narcotics can develop problems related to tolerance and addiction. I prefer to either not use narcotics unless necessary or to only use them for the shortest amount of time needed.

I don't know why your PCP wrote them for you, and I'm not going to second guess his/her practice, but my advise would be to try to avoid their use.

[warpedskydiver 0]

I didn't want to be chastized for talking out my butt (as someone already has chosen to do that)

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was it me, or was that just gas?

Tell me Doc!

[kbordson 8]

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I didn't want to be chastized for talking out my butt (as someone already has chosen to do that)

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was it me, or was that just gas?

Tell me Doc!

I'm blaming the dog.

[ladydyver 0]

I don't know why your PCP wrote them for you, and I'm not going to second guess his/her practice, but my advise would be to try to avoid their use.


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Exactly......I don't typically prescribe this for headache/// or any narc for that complaint honestly.......just too many other meds that could work with less side effects. could be migrainous......and you get rebound on occasion.......be cautious when using it.

DPH # 2
"I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~
I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc!

[LisaM 0]

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I don't know why your PCP wrote them for you, and I'm not going to second guess his/her practice, but my advise would be to try to avoid their use.

I don't know why she prescribed it for my headaches either but I thought I would try to see if it worked. Didn't work anyway.

~ Lisa
~ Do you Rigminder?

[shermanator 4]

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Hydrocodone is the generic version of Vicodan.

I live on that shit.

well, vicodan IS hydrocodone,... to be more precise.

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[kbordson 8]

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Hydrocodone is the generic version of Vicodan.

I live on that shit.

well, vicodan IS hydrocodone,... to be more precise.

Actually... Vicodin is a combination of hydrocodone and acetaminophen.

[shermanator 4]

touche ... thank you for the correction.

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[kbordson 8]

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touche ... thank you for the correction.

Not trying to be hard on you... but ...

ok... maybe I was being a snot.

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heyheyhey, no need to hijack this thread.. just because i tried to sound like i knew things I didn't.

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[DrewEckhardt 0]

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There are qute a few non narcotic options availible.

I personally take tramadol, for me it is effective enough to take away just enough pain where I can get by, without too much of a problem.

Tramadol is a narcotic too, although it has a weaker affinity for the opiate receptors and lower risk of dependence.

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An anti inflamatory like anaprox can help the effectiveness of non narcotics.

Mixing and matching an anti-inflamatory with acetaminophen is the standard thing to try before opiates.

[Muenkel 0]

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Mixing and matching an anti-inflamatory with acetaminophen is the standard thing to try before opiates

This is very true. It is my understanding though that you should not take acetemenophin at the same time as ibuprofen. You should alternate them every two hours.

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[skydiver30960 0]

tylenol= bad for liver.
ibuprofen= bad for kidneys.

You can take them at the same time, but if you did that you'd still have a couple hours between doses when you'd be in pain. By alternating the meds every couple hours you can keep your level of pain relief reasonably constant.

Elvisio "and they're BOTH bad for your gut" Rodriguez

[Muenkel 0]

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tylenol= bad for liver.
ibuprofen= bad for kidneys.

You can take them at the same time, but if you did that you'd still have a couple hours between doses when you'd be in pain. By alternating the meds every couple hours you can keep your level of pain relief reasonably constant.

Exactly! I do want to clarify one thing though; both Tylenol and Advil in excess are bad for the liver and kidneys respectively. Neither should be a daily diet and you should never exceed the daily dosage on the packages. They should not be feared however to be taken in an acute situation.

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[ladydyver 0]

Never more than 4 gms of tylenol in 24hrs......if you have a good liver....about 2 gms of ibuprofen although it does increase your risk for heart attack and stroke just like all of the nsaids. Ibuprofen can also cause bleeding ulcers and that is a whole different issue. It is ironic that both of these meds are otc's and have caused a tremendous amount of trouble. In my experience, and it is just my experience, these are the two most common meds that teens OD on.....again, this is just what I have seen working in the ED.

DPH # 2
"I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~
I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc!

[Muenkel 0]

If an extra strength Tylenol is 500 mgs, then you're saying never more than 8 in a day; am I correct?

I personally have popped 3 at once several times a day. I know that if something is OTC, you still need to proceed with caution; but I think many people don't realize how dangerous that can be because it is OTC. I also understand that relying on Tylenol everyday can be a problem; ie: rebound headaches.

My question to the medical folks here in regard to Tylenol. If you've had blood work that comes back with normal liver function, can your liver still be in trouble due to too much acetemeniphen?

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[kbordson 8]

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If you've had blood work that comes back with normal liver function, can your liver still be in trouble due to too much acetemeniphen?

Possibly.
Depends on when the labs were drawn, on what the use of acetaminophen (APAP) was at that time, on use of alcohol, on several other factors that could also stress the liver

Tylenol is relatively safe.... but any meds have risks.

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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If an extra strength Tylenol is 500 mgs, then you're saying never more than 8 in a day; am I correct?

Right, and even social drinking at that level can be enough to cause hepatoxicity leading to a liver transplant.

[chrismgtis 0]

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I had a prescription for Hydrocodone

If you're still taking it be very very careful. It is highly addictive. My ex-girlfriend was on it for years due to a really bad accident that she was in and was almost disabled. She got thrown out of the window. She got addicted and developed a resistance to it and had to be given higher dosages until she was taking such high dosages (and more than she was supposed to take every day) that it would literally kill a normal person in no time.

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