mamajumps 0 #1 October 29, 2007 Aging flying ace, grounded by jail Seriously, I think he should be allowed to live how he wants for the rest of days, monitored maybe, but jail...seriously... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #2 October 29, 2007 Quote Aging flying ace, grounded by jail Seriously, I think he should be allowed to live how he wants for the rest of days, monitored maybe, but jail...seriously... Don't do the crime if you cant handle the time.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #3 October 29, 2007 I have a problem with referring to anyone who wants to burn down the house of their ex-wife and then try to arrange to have her killed as any sort of "national treasure."TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #4 October 29, 2007 Twice he tried to hire someone else to carry out his dirty work and seems unapologetic for it... there's no reason he can't do the same thing again. He should have behaved as a role model, not a criminal. Just because someone does good deeds doesn't mean they are exempt from punishment for bad ones. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #5 October 29, 2007 I admire his heroics, but the fact of the matter is he hired someone to kill his wife. I mean absolutely no disrespect to any veterans but being a vet should not exempt you from being held as accountable as anyone else for crimes of that nature. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #6 October 29, 2007 Quote I have a problem with referring to anyone who wants to burn down the house of their ex-wife and then try to arrange to have her killed as any sort of "national treasure." Yeah - I can see if it was like a DUI - or somthing besides Attempted MURDER.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #7 October 29, 2007 Agreed in full. No one should be immune from the law... CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #8 October 29, 2007 Quote Aging flying ace, grounded by jail Seriously, I think he should be allowed to live how he wants for the rest of days, monitored maybe, but jail...seriously... REALLY! Does that include murder? Hey like others have said don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #9 October 29, 2007 The way I read the article, is he suffers from dimentia, and he's just an onry ol' coot. I could be way off base tho... I usually am... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 October 29, 2007 Quote The way I read the article, is he suffers from dimentia, and he's just an onry ol' coot. I could be way off base tho... I usually am... The article neither says nor suggests that. Quite the opposite, in fact: Quote Spending years around jet engines robbed him of most of his hearing and he's got a little arthritis, but other than that he's in pretty good shape. He laughs easily and still has a sharp mind, ticking off dates and relating details of his military service. It also says: Quote After he retired, Aust settled in rural Polk County and dealt in heavy equipment. He also racked up at least four arrests for charges of felony grand theft and dealing in stolen property. In 1991, he pleaded no contest to two grand theft charges and was sentenced to three years probation. Doesn't sound to me like this was a once-off. Nor does he sound repentant - at all. Rather, it seems that he made the conscious decision to live the later years of his life as a criminal. And I think he should rightfully be shunned by the millions of veterans who have gone on to lead honorable lives as civilians. No, I say leave him in. He made his choice. Make the conditions as humane as possible as befits an elderly man, but leave him in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micduran 0 #11 October 29, 2007 Don't agree with you at all. He is a criminal who shows no remorse. I don't care how old he is or that he served his country. If you let him out, there will be a looooong line of other criminals claiming that they, too, are a national treasure. Be patient with the faults of others; they have to be patient with yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #12 October 29, 2007 lock him up.....DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #13 October 29, 2007 Charles Whitman was a Marine. He should have been given free reign, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #14 October 29, 2007 There are a few "let him live out his days" responses. I disagree, but I don't want to bash anyone because of a different opinion. I'm curious, though--why?TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #15 October 29, 2007 Quote Twice he tried to hire someone else to carry out his dirty work and seems unapologetic for it... there's no reason he can't do the same thing again. He should have behaved as a role model, not a criminal. . I agree, I can't condone his actions....but I do understand them! >>>Just because someone does good deeds doesn't mean they are exempt from punishment for bad ones...O.J. would agrue! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #16 October 29, 2007 Quote I agree, I can't condone his actions....but I do understand them! I don't condone either, but I understand and sympathize with him. Still standing by my original post - But just slightly modified . . . Don't do the crime - If you can't do the time - or afford the legal team that will get you out of it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selbbub78 0 #17 October 29, 2007 That's sad. A great hero committing crimes. There should be NO reason why he should be able to get out, but maybe figure out what the heck his problem is in a mental institution or something. If he's going to commit the crime, he has to pay for it. It sounds like he was a fantastic pilot, and i am glad that he was on our side, but trying to burn someone's house down and also poison someone to kill them... ...he doesn't deserve to get out of jail. There's no "get out of jail free" card... CReW Skies, bubbles"Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #18 October 29, 2007 Maybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. Maybe war appealed to him for that facet of it, and with no outlet for the vengeful side of his personality after leaving the service, it came out in other illegal means. Not all people who perform exemplary in the service do so for altruistic or heroic motivations, a small fraction probably just enjoy killing or hurting others. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #19 October 29, 2007 Maybe you should ask his ex-wife...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #20 October 29, 2007 Quote Maybe you should ask his ex-wife... [Guido]THAT Bitch?She don' know nutthin'![/guido]I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #21 October 29, 2007 QuoteMaybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #22 October 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteMaybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #23 October 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Maybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one? You must use the force Luke! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #24 October 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Maybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one? You must use the force Luke! That's spelled with two "k"s and no 'e"I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #25 October 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteMaybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one? Try Iraq. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
turtlespeed 226 #22 October 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteMaybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #23 October 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Maybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one? You must use the force Luke! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #24 October 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Maybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one? You must use the force Luke! That's spelled with two "k"s and no 'e"I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #25 October 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteMaybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one? Try Iraq. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
airtwardo 7 #23 October 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Maybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one? You must use the force Luke! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #24 October 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Maybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one? You must use the force Luke! That's spelled with two "k"s and no 'e"I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #25 October 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteMaybe he wasn't all that 'heroic' in war... perhaps his personality or nature is one of violence. You guys sure are judgemental. Maybe he wasnt a violent person. War does things to people. Those of you making the judgements have no clue. What is a clue and where do you find one? Try Iraq. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
