Katana: microline or hma?

[tetra316 0]

(Note: I plan on contacting pd with this question, but I just keep forgetting to at work.)

So what kind of lines are on your katana? I bought mine second hand right after a reline at pd and they relined it with microline. I've also heard a couple people say pd now has recommended the katana be lined with hma. Is there a wingloading factor in this recommendation, like high wl definitely, and a lighter one not so much?

[MrHixxx 0]

There is a staying in trim factor with microline, hma is definately preferred...

-Hixxx

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[tetra316 0]

I really don't know much about high performance canopies but I know that much I was looking for some more specific experiences or if anyone knows if pd has changed their recommendation for lining the canopy.

[marks 0]

they are now putting HMA lines on the katana. it is a little bigger and thicker and a different braid than the HMA the PST guys are using, but it is a move in the right direction. contact P.D. I am sure they will take care of you.

[ntacfreefly 0]

Replacing microline with HMA on a KA is the smartest thing to do. I believe the KA now come with HMA 'standard' but I'm sure you can still get microline if you want.

HMA is the way to go. Maintain your lines though - they wont be as forgiving of poor maintenance as spectra.

Blues,
Ian

To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. ~ Lao-Tzu

It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer

[AggieDave 6]

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Replacing microline with HMA on a KA is the smartest thing to do. I believe the KA now come with HMA 'standard' but I'm sure you can still get microline if you want.

HMA is the way to go. Maintain your lines though - they wont be as forgiving of poor maintenance as spectra.

My question is since they're doing that with the KA are they going to offer it with the Velo now too?

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[ntacfreefly 0]

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My question is since they're doing that with the KA are they going to offer it with the Velo now too?

I believe 500 and 750 HMA has been in the works for a little while now for the velo. I am unsure what the testing status is but I know of at least one velo out there with it on.

When they plan to release it to the public, I have no idea. Not sure there are really any significant performance benefits to the line type that will be publically available though so I'm not sure how critical it is.

Blues,
Ian

To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. ~ Lao-Tzu

It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer

[tetra316 0]

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Not sure there are really any significant performance benefits to the line type that will be publically available though so I'm not sure how critical it is.

Blues,
Ian

What do you mean by that? No benefits to relining with 'standard' hma?

[AggieDave 6]

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What do you mean by that? No benefits to relining with 'standard' hma?

Is the stuff that PD is lining the KAs with HMA or Technora? Is there really that big of a difference between the two.

I know that a Velo at my DZ with Technora has the jumper smiling. Said it was a significant improvement. Part of that could be mental, but the canopy *is* doing better then it was prior to the non-standard line types.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[tetra316 0]

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Is the stuff that PD is lining the KAs with HMA or Technora? Is there really that big of a difference between the two.

Sorry about the ignorance but how is hma and technora different? In simple terms..

[Vectracide 0]

Tetra,

I bought a used KA from a private party with microline on it. The canopy had 280 total jumps on it with the stock lines. I jumped it for about 10 jumps and sent it to PD to get a reline as the canopy was opening very very poorly. Some of the lines had 3 1/2 inches of shrinkage in them. They offered to reline the canopy with HMA for about 1/2 the cost of HMA reline. Contact PD and find out if they are still offering such a reline. This was my first ever experience with PD and they FAR exceeded my expectations on customer service.

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[AggieDave 6]

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Sorry about the ignorance but how is hma and technora different? In simple terms..

My understanding was the coating uses on the lines, but that's why I asked, I don't have the full technical answer.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[tetra316 0]

I plan on contacting pd but was unsure if it would be good protocol to ask them to reline it with hma as it probably still has under a 100 lines on the new lineset. Plus the added expense.

[FeFe 0]

HMA
I have two identical Kat107s
one has a new HMA set, another keeps original microline set (350+ jumps)
two different animals (and I definately prefer the HMA one )
original set went out of trim by several inches in less than 300 jumps

[Vectracide 0]

If they offer you the reline deal on the HMA, it will be cheaper than Microline at full price. Win win situation here. As far as I know, they do not put anything else on there other than HMA.

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[ntacfreefly 0]

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What do you mean by that? No benefits to relining with 'standard' hma?

I was referring to the Velocity and 500/750 HMA vs 500/750 Vectran. I have no idea what PD's plans are with HMA but the technora brand that Dave is talking about is 300 HMA (very thin). I currently have the 300 on mine and it does make a difference. However that distance comes at a price (both literally and figuratively). When lines break more than one tends to go. The technora lines are coated and require much neater packing.

Of course, none of this has to do with the KA, so back to the original question at hand. I'd call PD and get an HMA lineset. I think you'll enjoy your KA more over the lines lifespan than having to deal with trim issues.

Blues,
Ian

Blues,
Ian

To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. ~ Lao-Tzu

It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer

[Cloudi 0]

PD will be happy to reline your Katana with HMA. Just keep in mind that the "discount" Vectracide is talking about is on a case-by-case basis.

Most Katana's out there are still doing just fine with Microline and will go to HMA only once it's time for a reline.

Kim
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