dropdeded 0 #1 September 17, 2007 Well, the Mount Whitney 4 day hike is a few weeks away and Im interested in YOUR must haves for serious hiking. Got the bear can (required, no tree's to hang stuff from), still got to food shop, thinking about some poles? Wondering whats best for blisters and chafing and such. Also, I was told propane doesnt work to well at high altitudes?? Suggestions for cooking ?? Doing the tablet thing for water. One more shopping trip..... Thanks for suggestions.------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #2 September 17, 2007 Trekking poles aren't nessecarily a 'must have' but they can really help you balance and save your knees on steep terrain. Bring a good first aid kit - including moleskin for blisters and such. On that note, don't bring a shiny new pair of boots on a long hike like this one. If you just bought new boots and need to wear them, wear them around for a few hours at a time for a number of days before going. Otherwise, you'll be getting blisters on the first day. Invest in a good backpacking stove - propane is way too heavy for practical use on a longer trips. A lot of people swear by jet boils, and I love mine, but it doesn't like to work when it gets really cold. For summer backpacking use, a jetboil should be fine. Just make sure you bring enough fuel. If you are cooking something other then water, jet boils have a tendancy to burn stuff to the bottom really quickly if you don't stir them a lot. Cooking can be as easy or as difficult as you want to make it. I have seen people bring full 5-course dinners backpacking. I tend to go as simple as possible because I know I'll be exhausted by the time I'm making dinner. Pasta is always a good choice. There are dehdrated backpacking foods that cook up quickly too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 September 17, 2007 Bear repellant, large caliber handgun, zone bars or something else that is tasty. Lots of water, first aid pack, mylar blanket, raingear. Knife, (remember you are only as sharp as the blade.) cayume lights, GPS, handheld 2 way radios with weather band. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #4 September 17, 2007 This is an overnight trip, right? My boyfriend used to be a guide for long backpacking trips so I can post a list that he used when organizing those. "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropdeded 0 #5 September 17, 2007 Theres a good outdoors store nearby and Im amazed at the huge selection of "just add water" meals and thats the route Im going. Using well worn in boots so no worries there...------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 September 17, 2007 for blisters either use moleskin, or foam surgical tape. The foam surgical tape is incredibly stick and stays put. Use superglue to close cuts that have already been cleaned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 September 17, 2007 figure you will need at least 4 liters a day of water while hiking. that gives you eight hours of actual hiking @ .5 liters per hour. While resting find water , staying hydrated will keep you from cramping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #8 September 17, 2007 LED Headlamps. Spare batteries. What kind of pack you going to carry? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #9 September 17, 2007 Legs (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #10 September 17, 2007 I really like hiking with trekking poles. Besides helping with balance in tricky spots and in stream crossing, they take some of the strain off the knees. I love my JetBoil but like others have said it does have it's limitations. If you plan your meals so that you need a stove only to heat water it's great. I prefer it over other backpacking stoves because it's not fiddly. Warmies and rain gear... cuz you never know. But no more than one piece of each type of clothing, with the exception of socks and underwear. You're gonna stink when you get off the trail anyway. Shelter, bedding, pack, Nalgene bottles, hydration pack, first aid kit, compass, maps, Ziploc bags, emergency kit, headlamp, a camera, a deck of cards. And a good attitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #11 September 17, 2007 My bag (purse). It has the ten essentials and more! Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lauraliscious 0 #12 September 17, 2007 I really like my snowpeak stove. I got it with the ignitor option, and it ROCKS. It screws on to any fuel cannister like the one shown (not propane). It's really tiny and really easy. Other essentials: a whistle around my neck, trail mix, NuSkin (for cuts & blisters), waterproof matches, rope, rain jacket, sleeping bag, sunscreen, a hat & sunglasses, a camera, waterproof topo maps & a compass, some type of electrolyte formula, jerky, cliff bars, good waterproof boots & 2 layers of socks (a liner and a pair of wool), polypro (NO cotton) clothes. I also put most everything in various sizes of ziplock bags to protect from leaks/rain. I always take a Nalgene bottle or two even though I have a Camelbak...was super glad I did last time when my camelback sprunk a leak and was pretty useless. Have fun!!! Enemiga Rodriguez, PMS #369, OrFun #25, Team Dirty Sanchez #116, Pelt Head #29, Muff #4091 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #13 September 17, 2007 Quote Must haves for hiking? miles and miles and miles of open trail with no one else around preferably over and around basalt flows if possible Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #14 September 17, 2007 I think that is a complete list of what I might bring on a 4 day backpacking trip: thermarest and the chair thing that it can fold into 2+ pairs of good wool socks (so that you always have a dry pair) 1 pair of poly-pro long johns top and bottom 1 warm wool hat 1 down vest 1 fleece jacket 1 water proof jacket and pair of waterproof pants 1 t-shirt and 1 pair of quick-drying shorts pair of gloves sometimes gaiters water filtration system lexan bowl, mug, spoon, pot w/ lid and pot holder, nalgene bottle (great for measuring) tevas and boots hiking poles tent + fly sleeping bag head lamp cards lighter and/or flint and steel first aid kit w/ lots of mole skin and whistle bug repellent and sunblock topo map and compass bear spray compression stuff sack for sleeping bag (Lined with a black garbage bag for extra waterproofing) whisperlight stove and fuel food in ziplock bags (possibly a large ziploc bag for storing trash afterwards and always carry extra food) wine and wine bottle opener <===== DO NOT FORGET THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! knife rope and stuff sack for hanging food shovel for burying your business head lamp and batteries camera (in ziploc bag) backpack! Sounds like a lot of stuff - but I use 95 % of it - the stuff that I don't use are the things that help prepare for bad weather or emergencies and you never regret having that. "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #15 September 17, 2007 And a Llama to carry all of that shite? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #16 September 17, 2007 Well my boyfriend and I split some of the stuff that we will share. With two of us going backpacking for 4 days this would be about a 35-40 pound pack for me. (He carries several pounds more than me because he is nice - and stronger than me.) "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #17 September 17, 2007 Quote preferably over and around basalt flows if possible You mean like this? I spent a few days there last summer. One piece of advice: hiking on basalt in the grand canyon in the middle of the summer in flip flops is not really a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #18 September 17, 2007 very nice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piratemike 0 #19 September 17, 2007 So generally when I hike, I do not hike with poles. When I hiked Whitney, I had poles, and only used them in the bits where I was in snow. It's a heck of a hike. Really awesome view. Are you doing it in one day? two? As for the water, forget the tablet junk. Last JMT hike I brought one of these: http://www.envirotechproducts.com/clearbrook-water-filters.htm I liked the filter bottle a lot. I had my normal bottle, I would fill the filter bottle up, squeeze some watter into my normal bottle, then fill the filter bottle up again. It worked out well. Your welcome to borrow mine if your going to be in my area before then. One bit of advice though. There is a high lake with a camp area a few thousand feet below the summit(I think it's listed as trail camp onthe maps). This time of year with no snow, that will likley be your last water stop. be sure you drink plenty there, and fill up before going to the top. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropdeded 0 #20 September 17, 2007 Been just above that third lake on a day hike, this one we have 3 day permits, so thats 2 nights on the mountain. Poles, Im still kinda debating but most likely gonna get em to see for myself. GREAT info so far and so much appreciated!!!------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #21 September 17, 2007 Quotewine and wine bottle opener <===== DO NOT FORGET THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me help you out here: http://www.threethieves.com/download/BAN_CS_02_FS.pdf This is my official camping wine and it IS tasty."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #22 September 17, 2007 Quote Quote preferably over and around basalt flows if possible You mean like this? I spent a few days there last summer. One piece of advice: hiking on basalt in the grand canyon in the middle of the summer in flip flops is not really a good idea. ah arizona basalt....how I love thee...Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #23 September 18, 2007 1. At least 3 ways to make fire. 2. At least 2 ways to purify water-and you really should get a filter and collapsible bucket. 3. Quality rain gear. And know how/make sure all your gear works together as it should before you get on the trail. I will be in southern Utah the first two weeks of October.......6 days on the Green in Canyonlands, 4 days in Buckskin Gulch and on the Paria to Lee's Ferry. Lots of fun! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWScottIV 0 #24 September 18, 2007 Quote Well, the Mount Whitney 4 day hike is a few weeks away and Im interested in YOUR must haves for serious hiking. Got the bear can (required, no tree's to hang stuff from), still got to food shop, thinking about some poles? Wondering whats best for blisters and chafing and such. Also, I was told propane doesnt work to well at high altitudes?? Suggestions for cooking ?? Doing the tablet thing for water. One more shopping trip..... Thanks for suggestions. BeerGravity Waits for No One. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #25 September 18, 2007 I'm sorry I can't help you. I think all you mountain hikers are nutz. Why not try somethng simple like the Gobi Desert...all you need is water, a generator and an air conditioner. It would be much lighter work. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites