bozo 0 #26 August 31, 2007 QuoteWe all hear it. "That's a real woman". ...as opposed to the blowup kind ? bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #27 August 31, 2007 QuoteThe word "real" is usually associated with women who are.... overweight. Hmmm. I've never heard that used. I've always found somebody who is described as "real" to be somebody without pretense, whether thin or fat or ANYTHING, for that matter. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashkit 0 #28 August 31, 2007 heheh why do they have to be short? hahahahhaaaa Whether you think you can or can't either way you're right! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashkit 0 #29 August 31, 2007 Yea but did you know that they changed the sizes to accomodate the fatties... a size 16 back then would be like a 10 now if that... so no she wasn't fat she was skinny just not sickly skinny and had boobs! besides, her sexiness was about alot more than her size...Whether you think you can or can't either way you're right! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #30 August 31, 2007 Like I said, "real" or "plastic"- to me, that's more attitude than anything else. Now "projected persona"? Well, I guess that is what I might consider "plastic". But not wearing makeup or putting an effort into your appearance. I'm still stunned by the OP- I just have never heard of "real" as another word for "fat". "Healthy" I have heard of as a nicer term for plump or heavy, but not "real". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #31 August 31, 2007 Quote Quote I have never heard or thought that the term meant "overweight"- since when is this the case? "Real" to me means just that-not fake or plastic, and that doesn't have to be physical- I think its more attitude than anything else. Great- now if I ever hear anyone say that about me, I'll just assume I've been insulted instead of complimented. thanks so much! I don't think it's supposed to be an insult, but I do think that being overweight has become such an epidemic (in this country at least) that being thin and in shape seems out of reach and unrealistic to most people. Hence where the "real" term comes from. That's just my thought on it. Then 'real' has become a euphemism for 'typical', if we're talking about body size only, and not shape, which so many miss... I think the fashion industry hit it right on; take the term 'junior' and what is the first thing you think of? Youth. In America today, beauty and youth is a billion-dollar industry. -So what are you going to call all of the size 12-18, then? 'Fat for Elle's Standards? Typical-overweight? No, they call them 'woman' because it is something that isn't insulting to those women. Why do they care? Because they're making money off of it! You don't EVER insult your customers. Any how, that's my take on it. I am just as susceptible to marketing as anyone else. If they would make my size clothing and call it 'Beauty Queen', I'm buying from them, whether I'm a size 7 or 22. I will not, however, alter my appearance to try to conform to some department store's ideal 'junior' size that isn't healthy for me. That's buying into the marketing at a dangerous level, and it's happening all over. Case in point: my good friend can't wear anything smaller than a woman's size large T-shirt or top in S-M-L sizing. By that 'size', she is 'fat' by industry standards. Marg has an hourglass figure; huge boobs and a tiny little waist. She was a model for much of her life. She is NOT overweight or unhealthy, but if she were to try to conform to a size 'S' in juniors, she would look boney and disproportionate, and she's one of the most beautiful women I've ever met.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #32 August 31, 2007 Just an aside on the whole clothing issue: "Misses" clothing is between "juniors" and "womens." Misses sizing goes down to some small sizes (including 0 and 2), but has a different cut than the "juniors" lines of clothing because most women acquire some curves as they get older (and not necessarily bad ones).TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #33 August 31, 2007 When I hear that term used in the way YOU mean, I generally think of Statuesque women. Maryln, Bettie Page and the like, Generally a taller woman with a Figure (And NO ROUND is not a Figure). A Woman with Hips to grab on to and Long legs to wrap around you. I find this much more attractive than the anorexic, overly fragile, Skin and bones look that the fashion world tried to push. Women size 10 to 14 (or even larger depending on Heighth) are probably in just as good a shape as the 0-2, IN fact they are probably more rugged and have much more endurance (and also generally a lot less HIGH MAINTENANCE). Thus they get the title “Real Women”. When I get in bed with a woman I don’t want to feel like I am sleeping with a bundle of coat hangers. A REAL WOMAN(tm) is one that you can play around with and wrestle and not worry about snapping her in half (Even better if she actually has a chance of winning). Give me a Real Woman over a Twiggy anyday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #34 August 31, 2007 Id hope its more about shape then size, in regards to Monroe, she had curves, she was not thin , she was avg. Just as her size now is still avg. Its just the way it was put together that made her so hot. Also has to do with height, Rosa is I think a size 0 and she is short, and has a great body, but take that same size 0 and put it on a taller person and its not as attractive.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #35 August 31, 2007 I'm not exactly "twiggy", but I'm not even close to a size 10-14. I can guarantee I can handle just about anything you could dish out in the bedroom or otherwise (just ask my husband ). I wear a size 3 jeans, my wedding dress was a size 4. Am I (or anyone else my size) not a "real woman"? VSG is even smaller than me. Interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #36 August 31, 2007 you two are short.. and you both have curves, if I was a dude Id hit it Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #37 August 31, 2007 >What does the phrase "real woman" mean to you? A woman who defines herself by her own internal values, instead of considering her external appearance or circle of friends as central to her identity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #38 August 31, 2007 The term is used to describe women of a certain stature. By that definition, It sounds like you would not fit that category. You are talking about semantics here and what many people mean by a certain phrase and the image it conjures up. Someone says "Real Woman", I think Statuesque. I would NOT think Conundrum. Bettie page, Marylyn Monroe.. Full Figured (NOT fat at all) that are defiantly still feminine but could also body slam you if the need arose. You or Rosa (I have never met you that I remember, But I do know Rosa) could NOT body slam me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #39 August 31, 2007 QuoteLike I said, "real" or "plastic"- to me, that's more attitude than anything else. Now "projected persona"? Well, I guess that is what I might consider "plastic". But not wearing makeup or putting an effort into your appearance. I'm still stunned by the OP- I just have never heard of "real" as another word for "fat". "Healthy" I have heard of as a nicer term for plump or heavy, but not "real". I rerplied to you - but the address was toward the general public.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #40 August 31, 2007 Quote When I hear that term used in the way YOU mean, I generally think of Statuesque women. Maryln, Bettie Page and the like, Generally a taller woman with a Figure (And NO ROUND is not a Figure). A Woman with Hips to grab on to and Long legs to wrap around you. I find this much more attractive than the anorexic, overly fragile, Skin and bones look that the fashion world tried to push. Women size 10 to 14 (or even larger depending on Heighth) are probably in just as good a shape as the 0-2, IN fact they are probably more rugged and have much more endurance (and also generally a lot less HIGH MAINTENANCE). Thus they get the title “Real Women”. When I get in bed with a woman I don’t want to feel like I am sleeping with a bundle of coat hangers. A REAL WOMAN(tm) is one that you can play around with and wrestle and not worry about snapping her in half (Even better if she actually has a chance of winning). Give me a Real Woman over a Twiggy anyday. Those hip bones DO hurt.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #41 August 31, 2007 Quote Give me a Real Woman over a Twiggy anyday. If SudsyFist was here, he'd be saying that Twiggy is his idea of a "real woman." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #42 August 31, 2007 Quote Quote Give me a Real Woman over a Twiggy anyday. If SudsyFist was here, he'd be saying that Twiggy is his idea of a "real woman." But then his sudsy fist would get sudsier.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #43 August 31, 2007 That is why I like the Sudsy one. He can take the twigs and I get the rest!! Everyone wins!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #44 August 31, 2007 QuoteThe term is used to describe women of a certain stature. By that definition, It sounds like you would not fit that category. You are talking about semantics here and what many people mean by a certain phrase and the image it conjures up. Someone says "Real Woman", I think Statuesque. I would NOT think Conundrum. Bettie page, Marylyn Monroe.. Full Figured (NOT fat at all) that are defiantly still feminine but could also body slam you if the need arose. You or Rosa (I have never met you that I remember, But I do know Rosa) could NOT body slam me. You think Marylin Monroe could body slam you because she was full figured (or at all)? lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #45 August 31, 2007 I think your size would just be considered petite, a "real" woman would be the same as an average woman 10-14 and a large woman 16+.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hungarianchick 0 #46 August 31, 2007 I'm sorry, but I find the point of your post rather...well..., pointless. Whether a woman is considered a real woman or not doesn't depend on her being fat or skinny, tall or short, flat chested or busty, blond or brunette. There is a man out there who likes her body exactly the way it is, flaws and all. "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #47 August 31, 2007 My size is considered "petite". But my point is why use the word "real"? As almost to say that women who aren't "full-figured" aren't just as real or womanly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #48 August 31, 2007 Quote I'm sorry, but I find the point of your post rather...well..., pointless. Whether a woman is considered a real woman or not doesn't depend on her being fat or skinny, tall or short, flat chested or busty, blond or brunette. There is a man out there who likes her body exactly the way it is, flaws and all. That's exactly my point, which you've obviously completely missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #49 August 31, 2007 She would have a much better chance because she would be physically stronger due to her size. A Girl size 0-4 or whatever is not going to be as physically strong as a girl 10 to 14 (Providing they are a healthy 10to14 and not a flabby 10 to 14). Thus the Real Woman(tm) label. Another great example would be Linda Carter in her Prime. Now there is a woman I would have like to have wrestled!! Now that was a REAL Woman! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #50 August 31, 2007 Size does not always mean strength. I think the advantage is weight more than anything (most of the time). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
