skydivex3m 0 #1 July 4, 2006 when I look at my vector 3, the fabric on the left and right flaps up around the second riser cover is all loose.. specially on the sidewalls if you know what I mean.. how do I avoid this.. it dosen't look nicehttps://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #2 July 4, 2006 Is your main the correct size for the container? Closing loop the right length?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivex3m 0 #3 July 4, 2006 the container is a V248 from 98, and the main is a sabre 150, the reserve is techno 155.. shuld fit ok.. just tried to make the loop a little smaller.. did not work... any other ideas??https://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 July 4, 2006 Quotethe container is a V248 from 98, and the main is a sabre 150, the reserve is techno 155.. shuld fit ok.. just tried to make the loop a little smaller.. did not work... any other ideas?? Obviously, I'm not a rigger... ...so take any advice I give with several large grains of salt!! Have you asked your rigger what he thinks the problem might be? What I wrote above was what came to my mind when you described the problem. I could see where either too tight or too loose could "wrinkle up". I think I recall seeing a post where someone mentioned having too much bulk in the bottom of the reserve tray could cause it, as well. Hopefully the riggers will come in and be able to give you an answer... good luck!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #5 July 4, 2006 I have a vector 3 that has many jumps on it, after i pack it usually has a few wrinkles on the 2 side flaps, what i do is bend the rig over my knee a bit with the back pad on my knee i push down holding the yoke and the bottom of the container. this makes it all nice and smooth! the reserve packjob has alot to do wit it too, my rigger has the same container so he knows it inside and out!! hope that helps?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivex3m 0 #6 July 4, 2006 I tried that too just now.. It helped a bit, but not enough at all.. there are not many vector 3's in Denmark yet, and I don't think my rigger is so familiar with it.. does anyone have a few tips to a good reserve pack result?? anything that could prevent this wrinkels??https://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #7 July 4, 2006 Quotedoes anyone have a few tips to a good reserve pack result?? anything that could prevent this wrinkels?? You seems to have too much time in hand.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivex3m 0 #8 July 4, 2006 yes.. I have loads of time.. Im looking for some constructive answers though.. again.. does anyone have some tips to packing the reserve on a vector 3??https://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #9 July 4, 2006 The Vecctor 3 manual has plenty of tips. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #10 July 4, 2006 Try packing the main wider, should be wider than the d-bag when you go to put it in the bag. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #11 July 4, 2006 Silly question... are you closing the main flaps in the correct order? ... Bottom (yeah, I know that's where the main closing loop is on a V3)... Top... Right... Left... and not Left... Right?? Anyway... looking in the V3 manual, there's pictures of V3's with a few wrinkles in the area you describe / it looks like what you describe... sounds to be a cosmetic problem and probably really to worry about. ... as for Reserve Packing Tips... read the manual, also, check this (see encl)... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivex3m 0 #12 July 4, 2006 yeah.. I close the right way.. I have alså seen the manual, and the wrinkels on the pictures are not half as bad as the ones on mine.. I'm just getting tired of looking at it.. thats all.. It is just cosmetic, but means a lot to me anyway.. thatks for the tips..https://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #13 July 4, 2006 If you have a 348 it is sized for a 170 main and a 160-170 reserve. The Techno packs smaller them the PD160R that is recommended for that size rig. You are basically under filling both halfs and the wrinkles are a result.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #14 July 5, 2006 Quoteyeah.. I close the right way.. I have alså seen the manual, and the wrinkels on the pictures are not half as bad as the ones on mine.. I'm just getting tired of looking at it.. thats all.. It is just cosmetic, but means a lot to me anyway.. thatks for the tips.. Did they supply you with the correct main deployment bag? unfortunatly there is no real way to tell. Try packing your canopy without a bag (for ground testing ONLY!!!), if it fills the container to your desires then ask for a new deployment bag, if that doesn't work have a custom bag made 1" wider. That usually does the trick. Asthetics are the last thing on a H/C container engineers mind as he "scales up", that stuff comes later down the road. That is the way it works. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bliston 0 #15 July 5, 2006 Main D-bags are labeled with gold lettering. Just compare the container size (written on the tuck tab under the ring cover where your data card is) to the one stamped onto the d-bag. BenMass Defiance 4-wayFS website sticks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #16 July 5, 2006 Sometimes those wrinkles sneak in during the sewing process and there is nothing you can do about the after the fact. For example, one of my clients is very fussy about his gear. Unfortunately, his Vector 3 has a little bit of seam puckering where the internal riser covers are sewn to the reserve container. He has asked me a dozen times to smooth them out, but I cannot do that without building an entirely new reserve container. Funny how the Uninsured Relative Workshop won't loan me their patterns???? Hee! Hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivex3m 0 #17 July 5, 2006 the D-bag is the correct size.. I will try to get a more experienced packer to do the reserve in a cuple of weeks when it is time again... thanks for the tips everyone..https://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darnknit 0 #18 July 5, 2006 QuoteFunny how the Uninsured Relative Workshop won't loan me their patterns???? it doesn't seem that unusual to me. why would a manufacturer give you proprietary information to resolve an asthetics issue? pulling is cool. keep it in the skin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivex3m 0 #19 July 5, 2006 I think it was a joke...https://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #20 July 5, 2006 Quotethe D-bag is the correct size.. I will try to get a more experienced packer to do the reserve in a cuple of weeks when it is time again... thanks for the tips everyone.. It's also not outside the realm of possability that the bag has the wromg stamp on it, it does happen from time to time. They only way to know for sure is to measure it and compare it with eithier RWS measurments or bag of the same size from another same size rig. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivex3m 0 #21 July 5, 2006 so it could be that the D-bag is for at 135?? cos' I have had a 170 in it once or twice.. I think the size is okay.. but ill try to mesure it..https://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darnknit 0 #22 July 5, 2006 Quote I think it was a joke... i can understand, and respect your opinion on the matter. i do not think riggerrob was joking, so i will have to respectfully disagree with you. pulling is cool. keep it in the skin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #23 July 5, 2006 Quotei do not think riggerrob was joking, so i will have to respectfully disagree with you.Then what do you think that the "Hee Hee" meant that was after the sentence?Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivex3m 0 #24 July 5, 2006 yeah.. and of course RWS will not loan him their patterns.. why would they... and he know that (I would think so) but anyway.. relax pal.. no need to argue (I still think it was a joke though)https://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darnknit 0 #25 July 6, 2006 good point Mike. i stand corrected. let's get this thread back on track, what would you recommend to help this poor guy out? pulling is cool. keep it in the skin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
