adventurechick 0 #1 July 6, 2006 Has anyone heard of a monarch parachute? I'm going to demo one for a month.... I've been jumping a spectre... will the monarch be much different? PMS #449 TPM #80 Muff Brother #3860 SCR #14705 Dirty Sanchez #233 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #2 July 6, 2006 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=search_results&search_forum=forum_6&search_type=AND&search_string=monarch"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adventurechick 0 #3 July 6, 2006 thanks! PMS #449 TPM #80 Muff Brother #3860 SCR #14705 Dirty Sanchez #233 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #4 July 6, 2006 QuoteHas anyone heard of a monarch parachute? I'm going to demo one for a month Yes Quote.... I've been jumping a spectre... will the monarch be much different? Yes! Think Stilletto!... more so then Sabre1, IMO. Have fun!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #5 July 6, 2006 QuoteHas anyone heard of a monarch parachute? I'm going to demo one for a month.... I've been jumping a spectre... will the monarch be much different? You lose a bet or something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #6 July 6, 2006 ... oh, and avoid turbulance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #7 July 6, 2006 ummm... and can I buy some life insurance on you with me as the benifactor... Okay, sorry, that was a bit harsh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #8 July 6, 2006 Quoteummm... and can I buy some life insurance on you with me as the benifactor... Okay, sorry, that was a bit harsh. Hey, it's not quite a Nova!! Close but not. Micl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #9 July 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteummm... and can I buy some life insurance on you with me as the benifactor... Okay, sorry, that was a bit harsh. Hey, it's not quite a Nova!! Close but not. Micl. I acually know a guy who still jumps a Nova! He took the "Nova" labels off of the end cells to keep from catching shit about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #10 July 6, 2006 >will the monarch be much different? I didn't like the Monarch. Sort of like a Sabre 1 but with worse openings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adventurechick 0 #11 July 7, 2006 Quoteummm... and can I buy some life insurance on you with me as the benifactor... I'm demoing a 190 spectre right now, but I have to return it to PD. So either I jump the 170 spectre I bought or jump the 195 monarch. PMS #449 TPM #80 Muff Brother #3860 SCR #14705 Dirty Sanchez #233 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #12 July 7, 2006 QuoteQuoteummm... and can I buy some life insurance on you with me as the benifactor... I'm demoing a 190 spectre right now, but I have to return it to PD. So either I jump the 170 spectre I bought or jump the 195 monarch. What would your wing loading be on the Spectre 170? Have you jumped it yet? How have you been doing on the Spectre 190? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adventurechick 0 #13 July 7, 2006 I've been doing alright on the spectre 190... but I only have 15 jumps on it. The final seems kinda fast for me, so I don't want to downsize yet. Also, I haven't landed it in cross wind or downwind yet... so I want to see how I do with that before I try the 170. I weigh 127 not geared up and I'm 5'8"... so I guess geared up, I'm around 150. PMS #449 TPM #80 Muff Brother #3860 SCR #14705 Dirty Sanchez #233 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #14 July 7, 2006 QuoteI didn't like the Monarch. Sort of like a Sabre 1 but with worse openings. Now that's funny!"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #15 July 7, 2006 The Monarch was one of the first ZP canopies I ever jumped. At the time (not having much to compare it to) I thought it was a great canopy to fly. However the openings were so damn hard I would never consider buying one. I have heard people found ways to tame the openings so maybe the one you are going to demo has been de-tuned. Definetly the hardest opening canopy I ever jumped. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #16 July 7, 2006 QuoteI've been doing alright on the spectre 190... but I only have 15 jumps on it. The final seems kinda fast for me, so I don't want to downsize yet. Also, I haven't landed it in cross wind or downwind yet... so I want to see how I do with that before I try the 170. I weigh 127 not geared up and I'm 5'8"... so I guess geared up, I'm around 150. "Intentional downwind landings... " I've never been a fan of going out and doing that on purpose... just know how to deal with em / they'll come in time. Anyway, I realize you're probably not looking for someone to tell you do this, don't do that, but I have to admit, I'm a bit leary of seeing you jump a Monarch at your experience level... although... given the size Monarch in question / how much you'll load it... I suppose its not a really bad call. You may hate the openings, like a lot have said and best find someone that's packed one a lot and you may find the landings to be fast... err... sorry... there I go... its a guy thing... doh! Anyway, good luck, be careful. Let us know how it goes... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #17 July 7, 2006 QuoteI'm demoing a 190 spectre right now, but I have to return it to PD. So either I jump the 170 spectre I bought or jump the 195 monarch. I would rather you keep the 190 a bit longer. Try the Monarch and see what you think. If you don't like it*, put some more jumps on the 190. I'll wait. I know Amahra is helping you a bit. Ask her about the possibility that the Spectre 190 landings may seem fast because you're focusing on the ground at flare time instead of the horizon. Landings always seem faster if you're staring at the ground and you'll always have better landings if you look at the horizon. *I've never jumped a Monarch & I have no idea what they're like. You might enjoy it, you might not. Dunno. Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adventurechick 0 #18 July 7, 2006 Thanks Kim!! I really appreciate it :o) PMS #449 TPM #80 Muff Brother #3860 SCR #14705 Dirty Sanchez #233 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #19 July 7, 2006 Quote>will the monarch be much different? I didn't like the Monarch. Sort of like a Sabre 1 but with worse openings. this is possible? MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #20 July 7, 2006 Monarchs compete directly with Sabre 1. Two senior jumpers at Pitt Meadows have hundreds of jumps on their Monarchs and still jump them on a regular basis. Bob likes his Monarch 170 because it is slow enough for demo jumps into tight stadiums downtown and he often jumps it with a camera strapped to his head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #21 July 7, 2006 >"Intentional downwind landings... " I've never been a fan of going > out and doing that on purpose... just know how to deal with em / > they'll come in time. I don't think you can know how to do something without practicing it, but that's a topic for another thread. >given the size Monarch in question / how much you'll load it... >I suppose its not a really bad call. About the only way I'd jump a Monarch nowadays is if it had a pocket slider. Since they are fairly cheap to put on, that may be a good compromise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #22 July 7, 2006 Quote>"Intentional downwind landings... " I've never been a fan of going > out and doing that on purpose... just know how to deal with em / > they'll come in time. I don't think you can know how to do something without practicing it, but that's a topic for another thread.. I'll opt to land out and into the wind rather then follow someone downwind in 0-5, if its enough to move a flag or wind-sock, its enough to pay attention too and set-up your landing into the wind, and, again, I'll land out so I don't have to listen to the zoomies bitchin' about first person down sets the pattern that just downwinded the whole load no matter how slight the breeze... guess its just too many years of jumpin' at Cal City where you respect and learn to jump in wind or pay lots of medical bills... intentional downwind landings in anything more then that, well, I don't think that very wise and I'll leave it at that... and, sorry, you're right on the "other thread thing"... Awh heck, can't resist... Quote...I don't think you can know how to do something without practicing it... Soooo, up for any "intentional power line landings" there Bill... ???? Anyway.... ---- On Topic ----- AChick, are you going to jump that Monarch or not? If you do, let us hear about your experience! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites adventurechick 0 #23 July 8, 2006 I am going to try it out on sunday... but I will probably keep on jumping the spectre 190 a lil bit more until I feel comfortable with downsizing to the 170. PMS #449 TPM #80 Muff Brother #3860 SCR #14705 Dirty Sanchez #233 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,049 #24 July 8, 2006 >I'll opt to land out and into the wind rather then follow someone downwind in 0-5 . . . If you jump long enough you will land downwind. If you can't land a canopy in a slight downwind (say, below 5 knots) then the canopy is too small for you. Best way to find out if that's the case is try it under good conditions, so you don't have to do it for the first time in bad conditions. I have started a new thread in S+T on this topic if you wish to continue it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jdthomas 0 #25 July 8, 2006 I jumped a monarch one time andone time only. iwill never jump a monarch again.. ouch! the opening on that thing kicked my ass........ Joewww.greenboxphotography.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
adventurechick 0 #23 July 8, 2006 I am going to try it out on sunday... but I will probably keep on jumping the spectre 190 a lil bit more until I feel comfortable with downsizing to the 170. PMS #449 TPM #80 Muff Brother #3860 SCR #14705 Dirty Sanchez #233 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #24 July 8, 2006 >I'll opt to land out and into the wind rather then follow someone downwind in 0-5 . . . If you jump long enough you will land downwind. If you can't land a canopy in a slight downwind (say, below 5 knots) then the canopy is too small for you. Best way to find out if that's the case is try it under good conditions, so you don't have to do it for the first time in bad conditions. I have started a new thread in S+T on this topic if you wish to continue it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdthomas 0 #25 July 8, 2006 I jumped a monarch one time andone time only. iwill never jump a monarch again.. ouch! the opening on that thing kicked my ass........ Joewww.greenboxphotography.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
