HP 7 - The Spoiler's Thread (ie don't look if you don't wanna know...)

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OK, I'm moving on now.

Chris

Chris,

I had no other agenda than to express my thoughts....something that came up during that particular event in the book. Please don't look deeper than that.

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Okay, I do have one wuestion that's been bugging me for a while and I thought it might be answered in this book, but it wasn't. Harry couldn't see the thestrals before he saw Cedric die. But didn't he watch his mother die??

I recently read in an interview with JK Rowling: Harry did not actually see his mother die, it is always described as him laying in his crib, seeing a flash of green light, and hearing her scream. She says that he passed out prior to Quirrel's death, so he didn't actually witness that one either. Cederic's is the first death he actually sees. Only after that could he see the thestrals.

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OK, I'm moving on now.

Chris

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Okay, I do have one wuestion that's been bugging me for a while and I thought it might be answered in this book, but it wasn't. Harry couldn't see the thestrals before he saw Cedric die. But didn't he watch his mother die??

I recently read in an interview with JK Rowling: Harry did not actually see his mother die, it is always described as him laying in his crib, seeing a flash of green light, and hearing her scream. She says that he passed out prior to Quirrel's death, so he didn't actually witness that one either. Cederic's is the first death he actually sees. Only after that could he see the thestrals.

On this note, I noticed that in the Goblet of fire the carriages are still horesless at the end (page 725) and this is after Harry has seen Cedric die.

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Okay, I do have one wuestion that's been bugging me for a while and I thought it might be answered in this book, but it wasn't. Harry couldn't see the thestrals before he saw Cedric die. But didn't he watch his mother die??

I recently read in an interview with JK Rowling: Harry did not actually see his mother die, it is always described as him laying in his crib, seeing a flash of green light, and hearing her scream. She says that he passed out prior to Quirrel's death, so he didn't actually witness that one either. Cederic's is the first death he actually sees. Only after that could he see the thestrals.

On this note, I noticed that in the Goblet of fire the carriages are still horesless at the end (page 725) and this is after Harry has seen Cedric die.

JK Rowling explained that one as Harry still being in such shock about the death. By the beginning of the next school year he's had time to have it sink in a little.

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I was thinking about it and I think Dumbledore was a descendent of the brother who was the original "master" of the elder wand. Pure speculation, but it fits, especially since his family ended up in the same town as James Potter's family.

Its a pretty nice theory and would love for Dumbledore, Harry and Voldemort to all be connected somehow because there are some really good parallels to be drawn, but Dumbledore's family only moved to Godric's Hollow after his Dad was sent to Azkaban...they wanted to move to a place where people didn't already know them. Still you never know...

I really can't get over how good this book has turned out to be... I was so expecting to be disappointed because reality never lives up to the hype, in this case it did. There are so many intricate bits that tie into past stories and tie up past theories that I'm slightly boggled. At so many pages I had "ah ha" moments like understanding the reason behind why Dumbledore did not allow Snape to have the Defense Against the Dark Arts position until the 6th book, along with teeny gems like the Ravenclaw door and description of its common room. Although now I want to know about Hufflepuff's room... Anyways my hat's off to J.K. Rowling and now I want to read the encyclopaedia of Harry Potter...

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OK, I'm moving on now.

Chris

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Chris,

I had no other agenda than to express my thoughts....something that came up during that particular event in the book. Please don't look deeper than that.

My apologies then. Thank you for the clarification.

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Chris

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I just finished it tonight. (ya ya shut it!)

LOVED IT!! Every twist and turn was fucking awsome. I however didn't like finding out about all of Dumbledore's fualts. I really kinda felt like harry reading about all the stuff he did. It hurt. especially since it all started coming from that cunt Rita Skeeter!!

I laughed out loud several times, and got misty eyed more than a few. I loved it when Mrs. Weasley came running in Calling Bellatrix a bitch and promptly kicking her ass!!! That shit had me laughing at work as I tried to finish the book between patients. I'm sure Arthur was rather proud of her and ron and goerge shocked as hell!!

I am soooooo happy she included the prologue I really was hoping she would tell us how everyone ended up. I couldn't stop grinning reading about The trio's kids and ya it was a great way to end it.

Anyone else starting the entire series over again?

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I have - re-picked up book number 1 and can't get over how good it is as well!

Is it also wrong that I can't get over how well Snape and Mcgonagall are portrayed in the movies!

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I have - re-picked up book number 1 and can't get over how good it is as well!

Is it also wrong that I can't get over how well Snape and Mcgonagall are portrayed in the movies!

Nope, casting Maggie Smith and Alan Rickman in those roles just seems so right; after seeing the first movie with the grands they became the characters in my head as I read the others.

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i just thought of something. Do you think Nagini could have been the python in the zoo in the first book?

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OK, I'm moving on now.

Chris

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Chris,

I had no other agenda than to express my thoughts....something that came up during that particular event in the book. Please don't look deeper than that.

My apologies then. Thank you for the clarification.

Hey, guys--I am NOT trying to stir the embers at ALL, nor am I trying to buck for SC with this comment. I just wanted to interject that I think the difference is that the religious conservatives who *don't* see the Harry Potter books as inherently evil just aren't going around starting web sites to sing its praises the way the objectors are starting web sites to denounce it. I probably fall into the "religious conservative" category myself, but I've read all the HP books and agree that sometimes you have to take fiction for fiction. I hope no one thinks that the people who are militantly anti-Harry Potter represent all of the conservatives out there. They may just happen to speak the loudest. You know, the old squeaky wheel. . . .

Okay, so THAT being said, I had dared to make only one prediction about how it would end, and that was that I thought Harry would OFFICIALLY step in to teach Defense Against the Dark Arts. With all the build up in (what year, 4? 5?) about exploring their career options, and then Harry getting a taste of teaching Defense to Dumbledore's Army, I thought he was well-positioned for that post that they couldn't keep filled. I'm not particularly disappointed, but I definitely felt that's the slant with which the books have been written. Apparently, JKR didn't feel the need to consult with me on this matter.

Oh, and I wanted the house-elves at Hogwarts to all be given clothes before they chose to fight, but I didn't catch anything in detail about them (other than Kreacher leading the way, that is).

Let's see, I also loved that Harry was given the choice as to whether to go back or to go on, and that he deliberately chose his own path and didn't just end up encountering Voldemort.

And, finally, I actually liked that some of Dumbledore's weaknesses were exposed. It made him a "real" hero, complete with human frailties and imperfections. I didn't feel that it took anything away from him so much as I felt that it completed the image of him. Just as most of the "evil" characters turned out to be more complex than we thought, so was Dumbledore. I think that's terribly human.

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I read the whole way through just to see if Harry and Ginny got together for good. When Harry started walking to meet voldemort to die and passed by ginny under his invisibility cloak, I threw the book across the room and stomped around.

Needless to say, I'm happy the way things turned out.

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I loved it when Mrs. Weasley came running in Calling Bellatrix a bitch and promptly kicking her ass!!!

I think Sigourney Weaver has to play Mrs. Weasley, just so she can do that.
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I loved it when Mrs. Weasley came running in Calling Bellatrix a bitch and promptly kicking her ass!!!

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I think Sigourney Weaver has to play Mrs. Weasley, just so she can do that

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so did Harry die? if so, then how?


Yes... and no.

Well put! That fact in itself may drive non-HP fans crazy, and to me it's an insight to just how brilliant Rowling is. You kinda have to know the entire story to understand that one answer, and I've heard a lot of people (non-HP fans) ask the question. So if you want to know if Harry dies, you are sort of forced to read all the books.

I was really shocked at Ron leaving, I was completely wrong (as usual) about most of my guesses (I was sure Snape was a bad guy, but I did suspect Harry's scar was a Horcrux), and I was hoping for more in the epilogue (what did everyone do for work, how did the Weaselys deal with the death of one of the twins, who became headmaster after Snape, did Hermione return to complete NEWTS, etc). The worst part for me was the death of Dobby! But it was really a good book, IMO - much more action and less suspense and mystery than previous novels, which is exactly what I was hoping it would be.

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I was riding into work today and was thinking about the last book and a question came up that I couldn't for the life of me figure out in my own little pea sized brain but is bugging the hell out of me.

I'm AT work so I don't have access to my book and even if I did I don't think I'd be able to find the answer very quickly.

Whatever happened in the Professor Trelawney storyline?

She's the one that makes the prophesy . . . does anyone ever acknowledge that she was right?

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Not that I can remember either. To my memory shes not even mentioned in DH at all.

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She was briefly mentioned during the battle at Hogwarts. She was the one throwing the crystal balls!

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>Once they find out that Harry died to protect them all and that his
>death prevented evil from harming all of them and then rose from the
>dead.....there is going to be some sort of shit storm.

If there was no shitstorm over the first Matrix (which was a much more blatant ripoff of that particular story) I can't really see one over this book.