Visiting Raeford

[kbordson 8]

Flying in tomorrow for somebodys 50th. But, it seems that the party won't be until Sat so ... any suggestions of fun things to do in Fayettenam?

[LouDiamond 1]

Are you staying in town or on the dz? If your are in town, there are the usual types of things to do from a nice night out to a near death experience. Fayeteville is a full service town

Since you like guns, be sure and check out Jims pawn shop and indoor range. They have one of the largest inventories in the country and you can rent a gun and shoot it on the indoor range. They also have an archery range if you want to get your Robin hood on.

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[kbordson 8]

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Are you staying in town or on the dz? If your are in town, there are the usual types of things to do from a nice night out to a near death experience. Fayeteville is a full service town

Haven't decided yet. I'm thinking it won't be too hard to find a room.

[McDuck 0]

Will you be at the DZ on Sunday?

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[Thanatos340 1]

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any suggestions of fun things to do in Fayettenam?

Here you go. Have fun!!

[kbordson 8]

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any suggestions of fun things to do in Fayettenam?

Here you go. Have fun!!

To spend money? or earn it?

[kbordson 8]

Possibly. The only firm thing in my schedule is the party on Saturday afternoon/evening

[McDuck 0]

Well, I'll be out of town visiting my brother on Saturday, but we'll be back out at the DZ on Sunday. I was hoping to get the chance to meet you.

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[kbordson 8]

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Well, I'll be out of town visiting my brother on Saturday, but we'll be back out at the DZ on Sunday. I was hoping to get the chance to meet you.

It would be really cool to meet you. I can't promise anything though, I have to see what the birthday boy might want to do.

[kbordson 8]

So... kinda sad to see Aviators was taken over by whuffo karoke types.... What's up with that?

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

Friday night is drunken whuffo kareoke night at Aviators for sure if you are going on jumper to whuffo average. That's cool though.

[eUrNiCc 0]

You can always visit the Smith Lake Ski Rixen & get some wakeboarding in

Egad, A BASE life defiles a bad age.

[aprilcat 0]

There's also horseback riding on the base...~~April

Camelot II, the Electric Boogaloo!

[jumper03 0]

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So... kinda sad to see Aviators was taken over by whuffo karoke types.... What's up with that?

so you came again and didn't say hi....

Scars remind us that the past is real

[kbordson 8]

I was there Fri night til past midnight Sat and Sat night til ... rather late.

Not my fault that your dance card is too full to accomodate

I would have be very amused to have heard you sing on karoke night.

[bbarnhouse 0]

Damnit I want monkey fries!!!

[kbordson 8]

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Damnit I want monkey fries!!!

DAMN! I forgot all about monkey fries.

[bbarnhouse 0]

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DAMN! I forgot all about monkey fries.

OMG you didn't!!
Now darlin' that's just plain wrong!

[steve1 5]

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there are the usual types of things to do from a nice night out to a near death experience. Fayeteville is a full service town
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I haven't been to Fayeteville since 1970. It's interesting that many still call it Fayetenam. I need to make a trip back to that town and Ft. Bragg, some time before I kick the bucket. I had some friends who had near death experiences in that town, so be careful where you go. Most of my memories were good ones though. Raeford is definitely going to be one of my stops, sometime in the future. Those girly joints sound good too! I wonder if they'll let old farts in?....Steve1

[LouDiamond 1]

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It's interesting that many still call it Fayetenam.

Thats mostly a hold over saying that many don't even know how it came to be. Pretty much all of what earned it that nickname has long since ceased to be or is no longer true. The viet/asian population,specifically female, is not as prevalient as it used to be post Vietnam through the early 80s. Hay street being one of the major changes from the late 80s where bodies could be found in the alleys or gun fights would break out on any given weekend in the middle of the street and the general ambiance was that of downtown Saigon. City hall now occupies the space where the world famous Rick's lounge used to be and the smaller MA-MA san joints are gone. Bragg Blvd. is also tamer than it once used to be. Of course thats not to say that you can't find some trouble on either of those streets but the atmosphere has changed dramatically from how it used to be, which is a good thing IMO.

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[steve1 5]

I think the reason it was caused Fayetenam in 1970 was because it was such a wild place, (somewhat like a war zone). I'm glad things are better now.

We had one guy, in our training company, that ended up with way over a hundred-stiches one night, when someone tried to carve him up with a knife. They paraded this guy around our company area in his underwear. This was supposed to be a lesson as what can happen if you go to the wrong place by yourself.

The crazy bastard, (a white guy), had tried to fight off a black fellow, with a knife. He had slashes all over his arms and legs, before he got smart and ran.

The real lesson to me was never try to fight off a guy with a knife, if you can run. He finally did run off, with the other guy was in hot pursuit. Finally he hid in the bushes, and survived that night.

This not so smart, White-guy was trying to move in on the other fellow's woman, in a bar, when things led to a fight. The black guy with the knife was intent on killing him, and even told him so, after pulling the knife.

On another night in Fayetteville, the two guys I came to town with got their rears kicked. We were separated for a short time at our Motel. The next time I saw them they both had their faces covered in blood. An altercation had started over little or nothing, when two guys punched their lights out.

Several days later we ran into the same two guys who beat them up. They were in the chow line going into breakfast, on Smoke Bomb hill. We were all Special Forces trainees going in to get some chow.

These two were very apologetic over beating up my buddies. At that point, all was forgiven. So many of the bad asses in Fayetenam were soldiers from Ft. Bragg who had too much to drink.

Some were returning Vets from Viet Nam, who truly were scary characters. Get too much booze into some of these guys, and things often turned ugly.

There was also a huge amount of racial tension, in Military, in 1970. You could really feel the anger cooking at times. Not only was it felt in the Military, it was also on the streets during that time period.

I went through basic and infantry training at Ft. Polk in 69 and 70. I honestly think that Leesville, Louisiana was a scarier place to be than Fayetville (during those years).

I could tell some more stories, but maybe I better quit before anyone gets too bored....Steve1

[warpedskydiver 0]

Leesville was a true shithole.

That was my impression and I judged that by my experiences in Shitcago during the late seventies.

[steve1 5]

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Leesville was a true shithole.
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There are some truly great people in Louisiana and some beautiful country down there, but during the 70's, I often heard people call Ft. Polk the ass hole of the United States. Tigerland at North Fort was the training grounds of thousands of infantry troops headed for Nam. The draft would accept about anyone during that time period. Many were told either to go into the military or go to jail.

One day I was coming out of our barracks at Tiger Land. A group of black soldiers were sitting on the steps. Being a stupid kid from Montana I thought I'd be neighborly and say something. So, I said, "Boy, it sure is a nice day." I didn't mean anything by the word boy. I say that to everyone. The next thing you know I was surrounded by blacks who wanted to nock the crap out of me because I called them "Boy".

In some places you had to wear a steel pot around the barracks area because someone might throw something out the window at you.

One Black guy, in our company, was bragging all the time about a White guy he shot and murdered in a parking lot, back home.

A friend of mine, that I started Basic with, was a smokejumper from Montana. He later became a Special Forces medic. In training, at Ft. Polk, he was recycled because of an altercation with some blacks. I didn't see him again, until months later, at Ft. Bragg.

I'll tell you, in 1970, it wasn't much fun to be a soldier....Steve1

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[warpedskydiver 0]

Nevermind....