Miami 0 #1 July 24, 2007 Anyone gone through the process of getting mold out of their house? I just uncovered a decent sized patch of black mold on the drywall behind my fridge, had a mold guy come out and take a look and I have black mold all the way across the lower part of the drywall behind the cabinets next to the fridge! The area of drywall that needs to be removed is approx 2' X 18', and the cabinets will have to be ripped out as well. They quoted $1300 to do it (rip out cabinets, remove moldy drywall, clean and treat studs, all under sealed and hepa filtered conditions...I elected to put the new drywall up myself to save some $), but I still think that's a little steep... What do you think?Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #2 July 24, 2007 Sounds about right maybe, but get another quote and see what they have. Always get more than one quote. I agree the drywall should be easy to do yourself. I was under the impression black mold was ummmm not good.Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #3 July 24, 2007 It is a bit steep when house hold bleach will kill the mold an anti bacterial paint will stop it from forming again. Of course you'll have to find an cure the source of the dampness. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #4 July 24, 2007 How long did they say that it would take & how many people? - So how much a man/hr does that work out at? Did they give you a break down of the material costs? When you do the maths, it may not see so expensive. Also, can you do some of the initial work yourself? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #5 July 24, 2007 QuoteAnyone gone through the process of getting mold out of their house? I just uncovered a decent sized patch of black mold on the drywall behind my fridge, had a mold guy come out and take a look and I have black mold all the way across the lower part of the drywall behind the cabinets next to the fridge! The area of drywall that needs to be removed is approx 2' X 18', and the cabinets will have to be ripped out as well. They quoted $1300 to do it (rip out cabinets, remove moldy drywall, clean and treat studs, all under sealed and hepa filtered conditions...I elected to put the new drywall up myself to save some $), but I still think that's a little steep... What do you think? That's not really all that high. Their insurance for that process is prettyu high. You don't want anyone that is not insured for that stuff to do the work.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #6 July 24, 2007 QuoteSounds about right maybe, but get another quote and see what they have. Always get more than one quote. I agree the drywall should be easy to do yourself. I was under the impression black mold was ummmm not good. Normally I would get another quote but all of the companies I called want $100-150 to come out and look...the guy I had come out was the only one who apply that torward the work that gets done. I think I might try and see if I can get any of them to give me a quote over the phone if I give them very specific details... He wrote down the two types of what my mold could be, but those are back at home now...but yea, black mold = bad, and I don't want my 3 year old daughter around that!Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #7 July 24, 2007 There was actually no dampness...it appears to have come from an old repair to a leak, but whoever did the repair did not bother to dry the area after it was fixed and voila...I get the mold. From the research I did you can't do that to drywall (bleach it and paint over it)...everything else (non-porous anyway) you can and it's fine but drywall has to be replaced.Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #8 July 24, 2007 A day to a day and a half, sounded like a 2 person team but he wasn't specific on that (I didn't ask though). No breakdown on materials, but most of what they would be doing would be removing things anyway...not sure if the material used to isolate the room is disposable or not, or if the filtration for the hepa equipment is disposable as well. I asked about doing some of the prep myself (ripping out the cabinets) but he was worried about that spreading spores if it was done in open air instead of in a sealed/filtered environment.Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #9 July 24, 2007 Quote There was actually no dampness...it appears to have come from an old repair to a leak, but whoever did the repair did not bother to dry the area after it was fixed and voila...I get the mold. From the research I did you can't do that to drywall (bleach it and paint over it)...everything else (non-porous anyway) you can and it's fine but drywall has to be replaced. That's right. Moldy drywall MUST be replaced. I had plenty of that shit all around the walls behind the old kitchen cabinets as well as under the stick-on tile floor. No wonder there were some soft spots on the floor that depressed when I stepped on them. Although I had to do a total strip out and install a new kitchen, including new floor to wall drywall and cabinets, it was well worth it. If the cabinets are undamaged, you may be able to pry them off the wall in sections without damaging them. Older cabinets usually are nailed on to the studs. My new cabinets are all screwed on though. The countertops could be tricky to remove without the right tools. I also had some black mold in a corner of the skylight in the master bathroom. There were a couple gaps where from inside the house, I could see clear to the outside! I rubbed bleach all over the mold, which was on wood, mind you. Then I painted it with mold-curing paint, and THEN I added wood boards cut to suit around the perimeter of the skylight against the drywall and sealed up all gaps and cracks, then got up on the roof and sealed up all seams with caulk. No problems since."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #10 July 24, 2007 Quote...not sure if the material used to isolate the room is disposable or not, or if the filtration for the hepa equipment is disposable as well. Usually tyvek suits, virus rated respirators, and a tyvek sheating to seal off the area. Hepa filtration is also disposable filter media in ventilation machines that are portable. QuoteI asked about doing some of the prep myself (ripping out the cabinets) but he was worried about that spreading spores if it was done in open air instead of in a sealed/filtered environment. It WILL spread unless it is in an area that it can me killed prior to disturbing (ripping out cabinets, drywall etc.) If it is all on surface, spray it with bleach and water or expose to UV-C light to kill it. The problem comes in when there is more behind the drywall, insulation, studs, subfloor etc. That is where the containment comes in damn handy. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #11 July 24, 2007 Did you redo everything yourself or did you have someone come in to do it?Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #12 July 24, 2007 I had mold in the house I was buying, so the seller had to pay for it, but I had to pay for the inspection- which I think is the real ripoff. In my case, the mold was in the attic, and it was a potential deal breaker for me. I knew from first hand experience how bad living with mold can be! Our home inspector found the mold, but we had to bring in a "mold inspector" for another $350.00 before any mold removal service would come in and give a "free" estimate. And the "mold inspector" did nothing more than say, "Yes, that's mold all right!" which of course, we already knew. The estimate the first company gave was over $7,000.00-we're talking about a full but unfinished attic- no drywall, no cabinets, just some wood slats to be replaced and treated. (They might have installed a vent as well, to kee the problem from recurring!) I let my seller find another company that took care of it for about half that. So, I don't know- $1300.00 doesn't sound all that bad to me for what they are going to do in your house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #13 July 24, 2007 Yea, when the guy scoped the space in the wall there was a decent amount of mold inside on the drywall and studs, mainly right behind the sink. No insulation and I'm on a concrete slab so at least that makes it a little easier...Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 July 24, 2007 QuoteDid you redo everything yourself or did you have someone come in to do it? I did all the drywall rip out and new installation, as well as rip out all the old cabinets and strip off the old flooring down to the subfloor. Contractors did the rest. Basically speaking, I got rid of all the mold myself."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #15 July 24, 2007 Remember something else, mold needs moisture to keep growing, you may still have a leak somewhere. If a leak was repaired, depending how long ago, the mold should have died off and only left stains, not actual spores. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #16 July 24, 2007 Yikes! In relation to that $1300 doesn't sound too bad. In reality it would be $1200...the $100 I already had to pay to have him to come out and look gets applied to the total.Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armour666 0 #17 July 24, 2007 http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/co/maho/yohoyohe/momo/momo_005.cfm Thats a sizable amount, $1300 is about right for the amount of work to be done most can be sealed and done your self with teh right tools just depends on your comfort level. most higher quality vacumes that you can rent at home depot (I have a ridgid) can be fitted with a hepa filter. I also prefer to use a quality mak and filter teen the disposiable. Bleach is not a good cleaner for larger mold cleanup and you need to mix with water and it neets a set amount of coverage, concentration ect better to get a specifice cleaner for it . if you do a lof of your own work no reason you cant do it your self foll the steps in the link and make shure you get rid of the source of moistuer is the biggest thing.SO this one time at band camp..... "Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #18 July 24, 2007 We've only been in this house for 6 months, so not sure how long ago the potential leak was fixed, but there was a big patch job to the drywall under the kitchen sink surrounding the plumbing, which is why we think there was a previous leak. He did a bunch of thermal imaging of the area and stabbed a little moisture detector into a bunch of spots in the drywall and could find no leak or moisture though, so hopefully that stuff is accurate! Now that you mention it...he did not do any type of air sampling to check for spores...is it possible that the mold that I found is all dead and there are no more active spores if there is no longer a leak?Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #19 July 24, 2007 Thanks for that link....lots of good info there!Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #20 July 24, 2007 Sounds like he was thorough and 6 months isn't really that long. The sellers probably had it fixed in order to put it on the market. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #21 July 24, 2007 That's what I'm thinking, too. Makes me wish we had gotten an inspection when we bought the house, but I wonder if an inspector would have found this. Talked to the mold guy, getting a sample done would cost $3-400, so that's out. Kind of got my own air sample though...when I got home from work my nose got running, as it has been doing since Sunday afternoon (when I uncovered the mold).Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plowdirt 0 #22 July 24, 2007 BUUUUDDDYYYYY. I just spent about 20K on that fkn shit. So get ready.. have an inspector come out and check, then see how much you actually got, cuz it get everywhere. Then they will refer to another company to remedy the situation,, Then you have to hire a contractor or take on the remodel yourself... I used serv pro, they came out and cut holes and removed anything withina 1 ft radius of the mold.. I wish you the best of luck with this, don't put it off it spreads, and causes blk lung.. All the best Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phillbo 11 #23 July 24, 2007 do not mention this to your insurance co. they will drop you like a hot rock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plowdirt 0 #24 July 24, 2007 They paid for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DontPanic 0 #25 July 24, 2007 Hhhhmmmm, I wonder if they're going through this much trouble with all those houses in New Orleans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites