peckerhead 0 #1 August 4, 2006 This rig shows up several times each month on Ebay. It always has a 24 hour auction and is usually removed within a few hours of being listed. In fact I just looked at it a few minutes ago and it is gone now. The person selling it always has a different Ebay user name and the location of the rig is always a different place. In the last month this rig has been sold from Texas, California, and New York. The rig is like new with a cypress and new canopies, and the opening bid is incredibly low with no reserve price. Too good to be true. The seller always has the same line, don't bid just email me for a fast safe deal. Then it is for sale the next day under a different name. I wonder how many times this rig has been sold? His email address changes everytime it is listed. Ebay must be onto the guy because the listing is always removed within a few hours. Either that or some sucker contacts him and he removes the listing himself. This rig has been listed dozens of times in the last few months under many different names and email addresses. If you see this rig don't bid, it is a scam. I have attached the photos, it is the same photos he uses everytime...... This really pisses me off because many of us do legitimate, honest sales on Ebay. Edit: I just found it again under a different listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ150018750768QQihZ005QQcategoryZ15719QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I expect it will dissapear again soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #2 August 4, 2006 QuoteThis rig shows up several times each month on Ebay. It always has a 24 hour auction and is usually removed within a few hours of being listed. In fact I just looked at it a few minutes ago and it is gone now. The person selling it always has a different Ebay user name and the location of the rig is always a different place. In the last month this rig has been sold from Texas, California, and New York. The rig is like new with a cypress and new canopies, and the opening bid is incredibly low with no reserve price. Too good to be true. The seller always has the same line, don't bid just email me for a fast safe deal. Then it is for sale the next day under a different name. I wonder how many times this rig has been sold? His email address changes everytime it is listed. Ebay must be onto the guy because the listing is always removed within a few hours. Either that or some sucker contacts him and he removes the listing himself. This rig has been listed dozens of times in the last few months under many different names and email addresses. If you see this rig don't bid, it is a scam. I have attached the photos, it is the same photos he uses everytime...... This really pisses me off because many of us do legitimate, honest sales on Ebay. Edit: I just found it again under a different listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ150018750768QQihZ005QQcategoryZ15719QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I expect it will dissapear again soon. Jesus!!!! It's butt ugly, who in their right mind (Mojo sparky, cuz it's orange, sort of) would want it? Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #3 August 4, 2006 Quote(Mojo sparky, cuz it's orange, sort of) Hey, never jumped an orange rig Thank you.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peckerhead 0 #4 August 5, 2006 It has re-appeared under a different name again today. Yesterday it was in New York, today it is in San Diego. That rig sure does get around! http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ130014019662QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1314QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DSE 5 #5 August 5, 2006 QuoteIt has re-appeared under a different name again today. Yesterday it was in New York, today it is in San Diego. That rig sure does get around! http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ130014019662QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1314QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem If you look at all bids on it, they're all "protected name" bids. Apparently the guy is bidding it up himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freelyflyn71 0 #6 August 5, 2006 Does it always appear with a "buy it now" price? If so, it might truly be a scam...I do recall seeing this rig a few months ago on eBay...maybe someone with influence should notify eBay of the situation. The Braver the Bird...The Fatter the Cat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NewGuy2005 53 #7 August 5, 2006 I posed as a buyer and e-mailed the guy who is "selling" the rig. Here's what he said: Hi there. The item is brand new have international warranty provided by the factory and come with all accesories that you need .my best price is $1050 including the shipping taxes. i shipp via UPS (air service) , in max 2 days this item will be in your home thanks and mail me back best regards I'm going to ask him if he wants me to bid or pay him direct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sburkart 0 #8 August 5, 2006 LMAO! It's over $13 k now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peckerhead 0 #9 August 5, 2006 $13,000 for a $5000 rig. But, if you email him directly it will only be $1050! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NewGuy2005 53 #10 August 5, 2006 I told him I was interested and asked him if he wanted me to bid or what? Here's his response: ________________________________________________ i would gladly use Paypal but last days my accounts ware hacked and i blocked all of them ,including my credit cards so the only payment method i can use right now is WU ,if you are interested to buy send me your full name and adress ,i will contact ebay for the insurance that they provide for me thank you for understanding if you pay now the price is 1050 usd included the shipping taxes. mail me back __________________________________________________ I'm going to ask him why he does not want me to bid on it through e-bay, and can I have a rigger look at it, etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NewGuy2005 53 #11 August 6, 2006 He wants me to pay him directly via Western Union. I'm done messing with him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freelyflyn71 0 #12 August 7, 2006 Quote I posed as a buyer and e-mailed the guy who is "selling" the rig. Here's what he said: Hi there. The item is brand new have international warranty provided by the factory and come with all accesories that you need .my best price is $1050 including the shipping taxes. i shipp via UPS (air service) , in max 2 days this item will be in your home thanks and mail me back best regards I'm going to ask him if he wants me to bid or pay him direct. If I'm trying to sell a high dollar item on eBay (which I have) I would use spell checker before I sent an e-mail to a potential buyer! The Braver the Bird...The Fatter the Cat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sburkart 0 #13 August 9, 2006 It's ba-ack. Hard to be believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peckerhead 0 #14 August 9, 2006 Simply Amazing! It has crossed the ocean and is now in the UK. Once again a different Ebay user name and a different email address. Same rig, same scam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #15 August 9, 2006 I wonder if this guy is hacking peoples accounts...the guy listing it.. has a pretty good feedback record. http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ300015812173QQihZ020QQcategoryZ36393QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peckerhead 0 #16 August 9, 2006 That is exactly what he is doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pincheck 0 #17 August 9, 2006 well i got in touch with ebay and pointed them to this thread as well as peoples concerns. hopefully they will keep a eye out for it, they seem to have removed it now. Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #18 August 9, 2006 When eBay started several years ago, it was fun and you got what you paid for. Now, it's loaded with scammers, businesses and get-rich-quickers. The good folks who use e-Bay in the right way, suffer for it. I won't go near it any more. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crum 0 #19 August 11, 2006 Is this the same rig you guys have been talking about??? http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ160018219121QQihZ006QQcategoryZ44056QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem its on ebay right now...... ******Today is one day too late.******** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #20 August 11, 2006 Its gone already But it will be back... as soon as he hacks another account. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crum 0 #21 August 11, 2006 Yeap, its gone again. This pisses me off to no end. Every time I see this I enjoy bird-doggin the guy, posing as a buyer and such. I get the same responses as the earlier posts in this thread....He sends me an automatic reply or something... we all need to do our part to expose these assholes when we see it happening!!! ******Today is one day too late.******** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #22 August 11, 2006 I alerted eBay to a similar scam some time ago and they did NOTHING. They even allowed the phony auction to continue to the end with some buyer probably getting ripped off. The item STILL appears from time to time. If I can find it eBay can too and should block it. Ebay talks a good line about fraud prevention but in reality they do very little to stop it when it is brought to their attention.2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vid666 0 #23 August 11, 2006 you talk of ebay as if it was a person - by the time your message gets filtered to a real being (i.e. seeps down through the beurocratic red tape), chances are their "advanced fraud prevention system" has already removed the item. geez. P.S. The orange G4 with Student Cypres was originally listed on eBay by a legit seller about 6 months ago. Alwasy wondered who the hell would want an ALL ORANGE container. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites deassasin 0 #24 August 12, 2006 QuoteThis rig shows up several times each month on Ebay. It always has a 24 hour auction and is usually removed within a few hours of being listed. In fact I just looked at it a few minutes ago and it is gone now. The person selling it always has a different Ebay user name and the location of the rig is always a different place. In the last month this rig has been sold from Texas, California, and New York. The rig is like new with a cypress and new canopies, and the opening bid is incredibly low with no reserve price. Too good to be true. The seller always has the same line, don't bid just email me for a fast safe deal. Then it is for sale the next day under a different name. I wonder how many times this rig has been sold? His email address changes everytime it is listed. Ebay must be onto the guy because the listing is always removed within a few hours. Either that or some sucker contacts him and he removes the listing himself. This rig has been listed dozens of times in the last few months under many different names and email addresses. If you see this rig don't bid, it is a scam. I have attached the photos, it is the same photos he uses everytime...... This really pisses me off because many of us do legitimate, honest sales on Ebay. Edit: I just found it again under a different listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ150018750768QQihZ005QQcategoryZ15719QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I expect it will dissapear again soon. If something looks to good to be true, it probably is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nelly 0 #25 August 17, 2006 Well it's back again, this time it's made it over to the UK - but asking for $. Asking to email a gmail account http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ260021852054QQihZ016QQcategoryZ2595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Nelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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mjosparky 4 #3 August 4, 2006 Quote(Mojo sparky, cuz it's orange, sort of) Hey, never jumped an orange rig Thank you.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #4 August 5, 2006 It has re-appeared under a different name again today. Yesterday it was in New York, today it is in San Diego. That rig sure does get around! http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ130014019662QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1314QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #5 August 5, 2006 QuoteIt has re-appeared under a different name again today. Yesterday it was in New York, today it is in San Diego. That rig sure does get around! http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ130014019662QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1314QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem If you look at all bids on it, they're all "protected name" bids. Apparently the guy is bidding it up himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freelyflyn71 0 #6 August 5, 2006 Does it always appear with a "buy it now" price? If so, it might truly be a scam...I do recall seeing this rig a few months ago on eBay...maybe someone with influence should notify eBay of the situation. The Braver the Bird...The Fatter the Cat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #7 August 5, 2006 I posed as a buyer and e-mailed the guy who is "selling" the rig. Here's what he said: Hi there. The item is brand new have international warranty provided by the factory and come with all accesories that you need .my best price is $1050 including the shipping taxes. i shipp via UPS (air service) , in max 2 days this item will be in your home thanks and mail me back best regards I'm going to ask him if he wants me to bid or pay him direct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburkart 0 #8 August 5, 2006 LMAO! It's over $13 k now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #9 August 5, 2006 $13,000 for a $5000 rig. But, if you email him directly it will only be $1050! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #10 August 5, 2006 I told him I was interested and asked him if he wanted me to bid or what? Here's his response: ________________________________________________ i would gladly use Paypal but last days my accounts ware hacked and i blocked all of them ,including my credit cards so the only payment method i can use right now is WU ,if you are interested to buy send me your full name and adress ,i will contact ebay for the insurance that they provide for me thank you for understanding if you pay now the price is 1050 usd included the shipping taxes. mail me back __________________________________________________ I'm going to ask him why he does not want me to bid on it through e-bay, and can I have a rigger look at it, etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #11 August 6, 2006 He wants me to pay him directly via Western Union. I'm done messing with him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freelyflyn71 0 #12 August 7, 2006 Quote I posed as a buyer and e-mailed the guy who is "selling" the rig. Here's what he said: Hi there. The item is brand new have international warranty provided by the factory and come with all accesories that you need .my best price is $1050 including the shipping taxes. i shipp via UPS (air service) , in max 2 days this item will be in your home thanks and mail me back best regards I'm going to ask him if he wants me to bid or pay him direct. If I'm trying to sell a high dollar item on eBay (which I have) I would use spell checker before I sent an e-mail to a potential buyer! The Braver the Bird...The Fatter the Cat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburkart 0 #13 August 9, 2006 It's ba-ack. Hard to be believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #14 August 9, 2006 Simply Amazing! It has crossed the ocean and is now in the UK. Once again a different Ebay user name and a different email address. Same rig, same scam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 August 9, 2006 I wonder if this guy is hacking peoples accounts...the guy listing it.. has a pretty good feedback record. http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ300015812173QQihZ020QQcategoryZ36393QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #16 August 9, 2006 That is exactly what he is doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #17 August 9, 2006 well i got in touch with ebay and pointed them to this thread as well as peoples concerns. hopefully they will keep a eye out for it, they seem to have removed it now. Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #18 August 9, 2006 When eBay started several years ago, it was fun and you got what you paid for. Now, it's loaded with scammers, businesses and get-rich-quickers. The good folks who use e-Bay in the right way, suffer for it. I won't go near it any more. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crum 0 #19 August 11, 2006 Is this the same rig you guys have been talking about??? http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ160018219121QQihZ006QQcategoryZ44056QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem its on ebay right now...... ******Today is one day too late.******** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 August 11, 2006 Its gone already But it will be back... as soon as he hacks another account. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crum 0 #21 August 11, 2006 Yeap, its gone again. This pisses me off to no end. Every time I see this I enjoy bird-doggin the guy, posing as a buyer and such. I get the same responses as the earlier posts in this thread....He sends me an automatic reply or something... we all need to do our part to expose these assholes when we see it happening!!! ******Today is one day too late.******** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #22 August 11, 2006 I alerted eBay to a similar scam some time ago and they did NOTHING. They even allowed the phony auction to continue to the end with some buyer probably getting ripped off. The item STILL appears from time to time. If I can find it eBay can too and should block it. Ebay talks a good line about fraud prevention but in reality they do very little to stop it when it is brought to their attention.2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vid666 0 #23 August 11, 2006 you talk of ebay as if it was a person - by the time your message gets filtered to a real being (i.e. seeps down through the beurocratic red tape), chances are their "advanced fraud prevention system" has already removed the item. geez. P.S. The orange G4 with Student Cypres was originally listed on eBay by a legit seller about 6 months ago. Alwasy wondered who the hell would want an ALL ORANGE container. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deassasin 0 #24 August 12, 2006 QuoteThis rig shows up several times each month on Ebay. It always has a 24 hour auction and is usually removed within a few hours of being listed. In fact I just looked at it a few minutes ago and it is gone now. The person selling it always has a different Ebay user name and the location of the rig is always a different place. In the last month this rig has been sold from Texas, California, and New York. The rig is like new with a cypress and new canopies, and the opening bid is incredibly low with no reserve price. Too good to be true. The seller always has the same line, don't bid just email me for a fast safe deal. Then it is for sale the next day under a different name. I wonder how many times this rig has been sold? His email address changes everytime it is listed. Ebay must be onto the guy because the listing is always removed within a few hours. Either that or some sucker contacts him and he removes the listing himself. This rig has been listed dozens of times in the last few months under many different names and email addresses. If you see this rig don't bid, it is a scam. I have attached the photos, it is the same photos he uses everytime...... This really pisses me off because many of us do legitimate, honest sales on Ebay. Edit: I just found it again under a different listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ150018750768QQihZ005QQcategoryZ15719QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I expect it will dissapear again soon. If something looks to good to be true, it probably is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nelly 0 #25 August 17, 2006 Well it's back again, this time it's made it over to the UK - but asking for $. Asking to email a gmail account http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-New-Complete-skydiving-rig-mirage_W0QQitemZ260021852054QQihZ016QQcategoryZ2595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Nelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
