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[marinho 0]

Hi there,
Can anybody tell me what A,I,R means??
Cheers,

Gus Marinho

[BIGUN 1,402]

It's a trick question, right?

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[matthewcline 0]

AIR: a combination of components used by all living breathing entities?

No?

Assemble, Inspect and Repack?

No?

Asshole In Rear?

No?

Airborne Infantry Ranger?

No?

I give up!

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So, start being safe, first!!!

[skybytch 273]

Air, Inspect, Repack.

[sid 1]

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Air, Inspect, Repack.

actually (technically) Air, Inspect and Recertify....... (as airworthy) but you do have to pack it to make it airworthy so...... either will do

Pete Draper,

Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right?

[KevinMcGuire 0]

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Air, Inspect, Repack.

actually (technically) Air, Inspect and Recertify....... (as airworthy) but you do have to pack it to make it airworthy so...... either will do

Well actually, the rigger is not re-certifying the rig, the canopy or anything else. To do that would require drop tests and data collection to ensure that the system conforms to current or improved TSO standards. This is not the case. That would be the manufactures responsibility.
AIR stands for Air(as in air out) Inspect, and repack.
Kevin

[bob.dino 1]

A______ Inspecting Rig?


/runs .

[teason 0]

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Air, Inspect, Repack.

actually (technically) Air, Inspect and Recertify....... (as airworthy) but you do have to pack it to make it airworthy so...... either will do

Well actually, the rigger is not re-certifying the rig, the canopy or anything else. To do that would require drop tests and data collection to ensure that the system conforms to current or improved TSO standards. This is not the case. That would be the manufactures responsibility.
AIR stands for Air(as in air out) Inspect, and repack.
Kevin

I would agree with that if the 120 day period made previous testing invalid. certainly the design has not changed, it's just that the condition of the unit is in question.
Recertifying things is different from certifying them. Other industries are required to perform inspections and recertify items why should parachute be any different?

I like calling it recertifying, it demonstrates the weight of what the rigger is really doing.

I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet.

[mjosparky 4]

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Air, Inspect, Repack.

actually (technically) Air, Inspect and Recertify....... (as airworthy) but you do have to pack it to make it airworthy so...... either will do

There is nothing in the FAA reg. that mentions, "recertify" pertaining to an approved parachute. There is mention of airing, inspection and packing.

This may be something used in military rigging only.

I was always told that I&R were short for “Inspect and Repack”.

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[nicknitro71 0]

What up GUS?

In my rigging world AIR should never be used...Yes I heard of Aeration Inspection and Repack but to me it means Assembly, Inspection, and Repack that does not make any sense

it's either A & P (Assembly and Pack) or I & R Inspection and Repack), those are the only two sets of initials I use.

The whole AIR gets really under my skin

Memento Audere Semper

903

[mjosparky 4]

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The whole AIR gets really under my skin

Tell it to the FAA.

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§ 65.129 Performance standards.

No certificated parachute rigger may—

(c) Pack a parachute that has not been thoroughly dried and aired;

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[KevinMcGuire 0]

I would agree with that if the 120 day period made previous testing invalid. certainly the design has not changed, it's just that the condition of the unit is in question.
Recertifying things is different from certifying them. Other industries are required to perform inspections and recertify items why should parachute be any different?


I like calling it recertifying, it demonstrates the weight of what the rigger is really doing.

[riggerrob 643]

Most of the time it means: "Assemble, Inspect and Pack."

The old: "Air, Inspect and Repack" is reserved for water jumps or clumsy pond swoopers.

[riggerrob 643]

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Air, Inspect, Repack.

actually (technically) Air, Inspect and Recertify....... (as airworthy) but you do have to pack it to make it airworthy so...... either will do

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Sorry Sid,
BUt we are going to have to disagree on the issue of re-certification. The last time I recertified a canopy was during the mid-1990s, when I tested a SAC for acid mesh, washed it, then re-tested it before returning it to service.

[mjosparky 4]

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The old: "Air, Inspect and Repack" is reserved for water jumps or clumsy pond swoopers.

It is a carry over from when there were certified lofts and canopies were required to be hung for 24 hours before packing.

But as I posted before, the regs. still refers to drying and airing before packing.

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§ 65.129 Performance standards.

No certificated parachute rigger may—

(c) Pack a parachute that has not been thoroughly dried and aired;

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[NickDG 23]

>>Can anybody tell me what A,I,R means??<<

$70

NickD BASE 194

[rigger_john 0]

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it's either A & P (Assembly and Pack) or I & R Inspection and Repack), those are the only two sets of initials I use.

How about AIP (Assemble, Inspect & Pack)

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[AggieDave 6]

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Tell it to the FAA.

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§ 65.129 Performance standards.

No certificated parachute rigger may—

(c) Pack a parachute that has not been thoroughly dried and aired;

Could that be read to mean, since a rigger or the jumper that will use it or a person under the supervision of a rigger, that a wet main isn't meant to be packed?

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[2jumphi 0]

funny nick.....in the military Airing is what we call flacking in the civilian world.

bob

[Elisha 1]

...and what does 'flacking' mean?

[matthewcline 0]

It is very simular to flaking, but when the canopy is being a bit rotten and giving some "flack" you start to "Flack" back and that act is called "flacking".

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

[masterrig 1]

It's kinda funny. I used the term 're-certify' on another, now defunct parachute related web-site and was told in so many words there was no such thing. It was pointed-out to me that, that term was not used by the FAA. I've heard Allen Silver state that riggers 're-certify' a parachute at more than one Symposium.


Chuck

[marinho 0]

All right guys, it seems we had a good discussion. Thank you for all your inputs.
Nicknitro,
What's up cabron????
Cheers,

Gus Marinho