everymansaved 0 #1 August 16, 2006 Does anyone know where I could get 2 arguses soon, possibly from an online dealer?God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #2 August 16, 2006 http://www.baddogservices.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=410 http://www.nouvelair.ca/ventes.asp?cat_id=5 http://www.agt.net/public/flyhigh/sales.htm http://www.iseattlecommerce.com/merchant/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=GG&Category_Code=AADs http://www.paragear.com/templates/parachutes.asp?group=19&level=2&parent=5 http://www.square1.com/manufacturers/square1/p1144.asp http://www.para-service.com/ There's a few to get you started. 2 are Canadian, one very close to you. They may not all sell Argus AAD's but call and find out, maybe they can get them. Chris"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #3 August 17, 2006 wow, thanks!God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #4 August 17, 2006 wow, only 1 argus dealer in the bunch, they're none too common. did you have a list of all those just sitting there, or what?God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #5 August 17, 2006 Nope, I've just put alot of research into online gear dealers for comparing prices and whatnot so I know of a bunch of the sites. There's a bunch out there. Most DZ's in the US also have gear stores as well."When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #6 August 17, 2006 If you don't mind me asking, why are you looking specifically for an Argus? If you do a search for other AAD's in the forums, you'll see that there are really only 2 that most skydivers would trust their lives to. Not to say it's bad, but the Cypres has been tested and proven over the years. Vigil is the other one that's building a decent reputation. I just bought myself a Cypres and yes, it's the most costly of them all, but it's also proven. Even the Vigil is having some issues that they probably fixed by now anyways. But some AAD's out there are misfiring on the ground or in the plane, basically they get confused into firing. Personally, I'd recommend Cypres2. Talk to some people around your DZ, they might be more blatant than I am being."When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
everymansaved 0 #7 August 17, 2006 I've been conversing lots with my rigger, and he's bringing some in, but I don't know if he's going to get them before my fiance and I need re-packs. I know they're new, but they're basically a vigil with a different name. I trust my rigger (obviously!), and he's giving it the go-ahead and he's got one himself, so I feel comfortable.God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #8 August 17, 2006 I agree with that and I have no idea on the actual specs and saves per unit or anything. The AAD market is widely debated. I personally was considering a Vigil or Cypres and my rigger said, why not spent another $100 and buy a Cypres which is tested and proven, so, I did exactly that. I'm sure the Argus, Vigil, and FXC are all great AAD's, their track record is just not there yet. That being said, Cypres had some issues when they first came out too, so in no way am I saying it's perfect. It's all subjective, I was just curious why you chose Argus. Thanks"When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #9 August 17, 2006 QuoteI'm sure the Argus, Vigil, and FXC are all great AAD's, their track record is just not there yet. The FXC has been around a while . Maybe you mean the Astra? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #10 August 17, 2006 QuoteI know they're new, but they're basically a vigil with a different name. Could you elaborate on this?My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rigger_john 0 #11 August 17, 2006 I'm guessing here sparky, but one of the guys who had a lot to do with the development and marketing of Vigil is now running the company that has developed and markets the argus AAD_________________________________________ Nullius in Verba Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #12 August 17, 2006 And BOTH those guys were on the design team/involved in the development of the cypres. Doesn't anyone wonder why all these "different" AAD's come from places a few 100 miles from each other? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #13 August 17, 2006 Hey Bob, I know the FXC has been around a long time. That's not what I was commenting on, the FXC had some big problems from what I've read. I don't know about recently though, I've never heard from anyone using one lately. And was it not a mechanical AAD in the beginning? I was basically saying that Cypres has built their name and it had stood up to the test of time, not without fault, but it's pretty stable now. I don't want to get into gear battles, I'm sure all the products are great, I'm just stating why I made my decision, and most people around me convinced me to go Cypres. I have nothign against ANY of the other companies. Hopefully that clears up what I was trying to get across."When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #14 August 18, 2006 I getcha and I chose a Cypres 2 for the same reason. I was just nitpicking - the FXC is a mechanical AAD, used primarily on student gear. Why? Among other things, it's not all that accurate, so it needs to be set high. Why use it? It doesn't need to go back to the factory after a fire - it can be reset quite easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites