Why can't you wear your rig on commerical aircraft?

[shortyj 0]

I was just wondering. I wouldn't mind it. But really why not anyone know? Andy said he was going to wear his just to piss everyone off. ROTFLMAO J/K he didn't say that

Playtime is essential.

[quade 4]

I've made a number of jumps in my life and all of them have been from commercial aircraft.

I hope I was wearing my rig at the time!

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[shortyj 0]

LOL know what I mean not what I say

Playtime is essential.

[Amazon 7]

In this day and age do you REALLLLLY want to scare the wuffos....

Good way to meet Mr TSA.. bored to tears with his job.


But a very good line for those not wearing one is...

" What.. they didnt give you one at the counter???"

[Andy_Copland 0]

I was inline at the airport when some skydivers came and spoke to me after seeing my rig on my back, was nice of them. But as for people on the plane, cluelss. Its a backpack to them

1338

People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

[shortyj 0]

there must be something really IMPORTANT in that backpack to have it strapped on like that

Playtime is essential.

[airtwardo 7]

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In this day and age do you REALLLLLY want to scare the wuffos....

Good way to meet Mr TSA.. bored to tears with his job.


But a very good line for those not wearing one is...

" What.. they didnt give you one at the counter???"

The line I used several years ago was...

I got a heavy one, what kind did they give you?"

Went over like a fart in an elevator!

On the other hand, last weekend I hitched a ride with my wife to the left-coast...she put my rig on the conveyor belt, and imagine the looks SHE got from security.....she was 'in uniform' at the time!

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[sharimcm 0]

I remember having my rig on a flight back from Atlanta. I sat one row back from the emergency exit row, and when the guy next to me asked me what my rig was, I told him it was "Emergency Exit Gear" that the flight attendant gave to me when I got on the plane. Then, he asked me if I was serious.

"I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself

[shropshire 0]

Exactly.



I carry mine on every time I go to Emp' (3 times now). Only been questioned about it once (at Stanstead on the way out). So many must pass through Girona that they're as common as muck.

I would put it in a soft bag (still carry on) if I had one.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Krip 2]

Carried mine in a soft bag to be discreet pre 9/11

X-ray macines pick up all the metal parts Screener "Whats that"? PC sring, three rings etc. Sports/exercise equipment.

Got escorted back to the check in counter at orlando sharp supervisor.

[mouth 0]

Everytime I fly I wear one and put the other in a backpack as carryon. Nobody has ever questioned me except for the curious...........

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Hot Mama
At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

[kbordson 8]

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I was just wondering. I wouldn't mind it. But really why not anyone know?

You can. At least I have. Not in the last 6months though... but within the past year. Had my cypress card to show the schematics of the cypress and a letter (I think it was from the FAA) saying it is legal to carry it.

[hukturn 0]

DB Cooper comes to mind. Not to mention the possibility of someone carrying a bomb onto an airplane, arming it and exiting. I hate the airline politics but some things are rational.

[JohnMitchell 16]

For the hundredth time, it is quite legal to have your rig as carry-on luggage. The FAA and TSA have no rules against it. Few, if any, airlines do either. There is a rule against CO2 powered devices in the cabin, so your floation gear needs to be checked. Also, I believe the pyro device in the old Sentinel AADs was big enough to be banned from the cabin.

With that said, I've seen the hassle more than once of skydivers parading their rigs around the terminal. I've always had mine in a discreet carry-on bag and have never had trouble getting it on the plane. I have had to pull out my govt. ID and do some fast talking to the airline employees to keep my friends from having to check their proudly displayed gear.

[sundevil777 102]

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...as for people on the plane, cluelss. Its a backpack to them

It doesn't matter if nearly everyone is clueless, it only takes one person to cause a problem for you. Such problems have the potential to get the TSA to revoke their policy allowing rigs as carry on baggage. If skydivers are seen as causing them grief becuase there are some incidents of nervous passengers, I think they would have no hesitation to reverse their position. I cannot understand why it is so important for some to have it exposed.

Also, remember that despite the current policy, they can decide to not allow it anyway, then you'll have the choice of taking a later flight - hoping they'll treat you differently, or checking it without a gear bag.

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

[kbordson 8]

Here is the TSA website on parachutes.

And this is the USPA website on Parachutes and Carry On. Specifically note this section

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roblems?
Skydivers encountering problems with screeners should request that the screener's supervisor become involved. Skydivers should insist that the supervisor review " Chapter Section 17.2 of Version 4.0 of the Screening Checkpoint Standard Operating Procedure." Skydivers encountering unsatisfactory treatment should contact USPA at 703-836-3495 ext. 325 or e-mail us. Be ready to provide the airport, date and time of flight, airline and flight number, and names of TSA officials involved.

[tetra316 0]

I have carried mine on flights dozens of times, most recently was January. I almost always just wear it like a backpack. Never had an issue. Have been detained for a few minutes when they want to use the rig to train other screeners though.

[shropshire 0]

<insist that the supervisor review....>>

maybe I'm soft.... but I wouldn't personally try to insist that anyone does anything... might suggest it tho'

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Mikhail 0]

Does anyone have experience with international flights, e.g. Canada-US?

[woodpecker 0]

Yes,

I've carried my rig on 3 trips from UK to US round trip, so thats 6 times total. No problems. Did get escorted to a separate machine once away from the line at check in, but that actually sped things up. No issues though.

And apparently most Whuffos think that canopies are extracted with some sort of fuel driven rocket. I've been asked if I have this sort of device in my rig many times.

Hope this helps,

Billy

SONIC WOODY #146

There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on?

[Mikhail 0]

Cool. I just did a search and came up with Canadian TSA: http://www.catsa-acsta.gc.ca/english/travel_voyage/list.shtml#parachute . It pretty much reiterates what has been said by the US TSA.

[ntrprnr 0]

End result: Carry it in a duffel. Not worth the hassle of the clueless and bored TSA people, or worse, some moron do-gooder trying to "help" by "seeing something, then saying something."

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"Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?"
"Even in freefall, I have commitment issues."

[Mikhail 0]

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...or worse, some moron do-gooder trying to "help" by "seeing something, then saying something."

Or seeing something shiny and pulling it.

[raftman 12]

Funny- I had a whuffo at the DZ one time point to my silver handle and ask "What happens if I pull that?" I said "Your nose gets broke!" He still didn't get it. But hey-if you want to show off your COOL skydiving gear to the unknowing masses. why not go all out, wear your jumpsuit, googles, alti, helmet etc.......Go big or stay home!

[shortyj 0]

someone should do that and make sure they have video

Playtime is essential.