Analog altimeters - Display over 12k'

[kelpdiver 2]

the custom face option is neat, but you give up the night glow face to do it. So night jumps either require some lighting or a different altimeter.

Scoop - I don't get the aversion to digital and/or logging. To get what you want without that will cost far more. Jumpers just don't need an improvement on the 12k dial to do jumps up to 18k, which covers far more than 99% of the sport jumps done.

I get the aversion to plain digital - I demo'd the Neptune for a month and stayed with the analog. I'll probably get the Altitrak when I'm back in the sky. It seems like the best answer for you as well.

Is there really an unpowered military altimeter with an asymmetric scale? I wonder how that is done.

[Chris-Ottawa 0]

I'm surprised no one had mentioned that up to now. I also wasn't assuming that you don't know the difference between 14 and 2 k, but more speaking to the fact of safety. If you look at your alti and see 2k and panic, well it would either be a very close call, or a damn long canopy ride. It's pretty easy to see the difference between 14 and 2k (sorry to anyone who can't), but it still can cause issues, especially for someone very new.

I'll post a picture of what I did with mine. I never did send my alti to get it installed because they couldn't put the glow face on my design so I opted not to do it. All I did was made the numbers bigger, made notches for each 1k marker, put in 500ft markers all the way up, and I blended the yellow zone from 3250ft to 2750 where it is basically red, looks kinda cool. (I think)

Have fun and good luck!

Chris

EDIT:Picture will be posted when I get home...

"When once you have tasted flight..."

[Chris-Ottawa 0]

Here's the pictures I was playing around with.

EDIT: These ones do not have the "extra" altitude.

"When once you have tasted flight..."

[FrogNog 1]

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... when doing jumps above 12k I don't want to think about rotations and adding things up in my head.

This only ever bothered me in the plane. Once out of the plane, looking down tended to reassure me. The difference between 12,500 feet and 500 feet in freefall, I imagine, would be staggering. In the plane I learned to look for mountains. :)

Granted, I haven't done many jumps where looking at the ground could be confusing, such as night/desert/polar/ocean jumps.

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[popsjumper 2]

What I don't like about the one in your picture is that it counts down strangely...first by 3s, then by 2s and finally by 1s...for analog, all 1s is much less confusing...especially for younger jumpers.

I rarely even check my alti between 14-12K except when I'm with a student to tell what he's doing at that time.

FWIW:
I use a neptune in my helmet as a backup and as a "screw-up" reminder, but an analog on my wrist...for me, the analog is much easier to "read" with a glance rather than really having to focus on a digital display to actually read the numbers.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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[GreenMachine 0]

I agree with Pops, the ONLY time I check my wrist above 10K is if I am coaching and need to tell a student when something happened. I too like have an analog on my wrist and an audible in my helmet.

As anyone who has seen my kitchen cabinets or sock drawer can attest, I too am 'Anal Rententive', however it seems to me Scoop is worrying way too much about something that will be 2nd nature in another 50 jumps.

My advice man, spend that energy on packing well and you will live a longer, happier life.

Rigger, Skydiver, BASE Jumper, Retired TM

[Scoop 0]

Haha, cheers people. I'm not overly concerned just be nicer and cleaner. For example the speedo in your car doesnt go to 100mph then anything in excess of that you have to work out for yourself

[JohnnyD 0]

The design of the altimeter face has the same number placement of a clock face. This is intentional. The brain will process what alttude you are falling through faster and more consistently. That is what I heard.

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Yea it is. And notice how if you fall about 5 seconds per 1000ft, there's 12K feet on the alti....12 * 5 is 60 seconds....nifty...

[mjosparky 4]

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Yea it is. And notice how if you fall about 5 seconds per 1000ft, there's 12K feet on the alti....12 * 5 is 60 seconds....nifty...

Nifty, by that reasoning a 60 sec. freefall will put you in the dirt.

You might want to check you math against a FF chart. In 60 sec. you fall around 10,000 feet.

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[Guest]

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Nifty, by that reasoning a 60 sec. freefall will put you in the dirt

Well, that could be considered a new-style of dirt-diving.

Yea, it prolly is aroudn 10K....but up here in CO you fall a tad faster...specially when it's hot.

[mjosparky 4]

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Nifty, by that reasoning a 60 sec. freefall will put you in the dirt

Well, that could be considered a new-style of dirt-diving.

Yea, it prolly is aroudn 10K....but up here in CO you fall a tad faster...specially when it's hot.

90% of skydiving is mental, always remember to think.

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[DJmikeD 0]

I to loved the analog Alti 3 when I started but it only took one jump to realize that I liked the Neptune Better. Having the log chart and being able to download the jumps was a great tool. Plus you dont even have to turn it on. I will just push the button before boarding the plain to check the battery but when you climb it will give you everything from Temp. to climb rate, and alt. As soon as you leave the plain it jumps to the Large Screen of just the altitude. once below I think 3000 feet it will go from a 5.5 scale (5,500 feet) to a exact scale to see what you are loosing in turns and such. someday I will use this as a audible and then also have a wrist alti-3 but I will always bring this one with me.

"Falling is the easy part, Landing smoothly is the most importent part!
-DJ Mike

[Scoop 0]

Found some. Thanks to people that helped
Made by company called Barigo

[packerboy 3]

My first altimeter was a Barigo (not that one). I really liked it... very rugged, so much in fact we used them for student/rental altimeters. It just feels and looks solid.

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[laraatalti2 0]

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Are the digital ones accurate down low? Say from 1000-300 feet. I use my alitimeter a good deal to setup my landing pattern.

Hi Scoop! If this is the case, I wouldn't personally go with an altimeter that displays 0-15k linearly. Check out the region under 1000' - it's pretty small on any model like that (and most analogs, for that matter - that's why people were recommending a digital). Just want to make sure you understand what you're asking for

~ Lara

[kallend 2,026]

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Yea it is. And notice how if you fall about 5 seconds per 1000ft, there's 12K feet on the alti....12 * 5 is 60 seconds....nifty...

Nifty, by that reasoning a 60 sec. freefall will put you in the dirt.

You might want to check you math against a FF chart. In 60 sec. you fall around 10,000 feet.

Not head down, and not in a BM suit. Those charts are no good for many skydiving disciplines.

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[kallend 2,026]

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Are the digital ones accurate down low? Say from 1000-300 feet. I use my alitimeter a good deal to setup my landing pattern.

Guess why most swoopers are using digitals

Don't confuse precision with accuracy.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[dragon2 2]

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Are the digital ones accurate down low? Say from 1000-300 feet. I use my alitimeter a good deal to setup my landing pattern.

Guess why most swoopers are using digitals

Don't confuse precision with accuracy.

I don't. However, the Neptune for instance appears to really be that accurate

ciel bleu,
Saskia

[mjosparky 4]

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Not head down, and not in a BM suit. Those charts are no good for many skydiving disciplines.

At 17 jumps I doubt that head down and BM are an issue.

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[kelpdiver 2]

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Not head down, and not in a BM suit. Those charts are no good for many skydiving disciplines.

At 17 jumps I doubt that head down and BM are an issue.

but if he's my size, the chart is still iffy.

You can't have one chart fit all.

Add: student jumpers typically arch more, fall faster.

[Scoop 0]

Hey, I know that I start my pattern at 1000 feet and that is displayed clearly enough. Under canopy things are relatively slow time and checking alti isn't such an issue for me, at least not yet. I'm not interested in trying high performance landings. I guess the only way to know for sure is to try.
Maybe I'll look at a neptune or similar when I got money to burn.

[mjosparky 4]

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You can't have one chart fit all.

II am aware of that, it was being used to high light a point. The numbers were developed probably before you were born and may or may not be valid today. But they do show that you do not fall at same speed the first few seconds after exit as you do once you reach terminal.

I am sure you are aware of the concept.

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[GraficO 0]

I hear Viso is shipping within 2 weeks...

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