D_22359 0 #26 May 9, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Bill, aka D_22369 on dz.com, had to bring his very experienced diving partner back from the dead a few months ago. What caused him to be temporarily dead? Drowning at depth, but I don't remember why. Bill (the same guy who landed in that tree in Lodi ) should chime in here. Blues, Dave Gee thanks for bringing up that friggin tree AGAIN Dave First off Scuba is a pretty tame sport IF you dive within the recreational limits that you will learn in your openwater class. It's been said over and over already in this thread take your time on the way back up and DONT FORGET TO BREATH (I'm not yell'n just stressing the point) What Dave is talking abought was a NEAR drowining involving myself and the Instructor I work with i'm just a lowly dive master. My buddy was diving a closed circut re-breather and had a mal with one of the o2 sensors. His o2 spiked and he went toxic theirs a reallllllllllllly long word thats the correct name but basicaly he went hyperoxic not hypoxic he was reciving to much 100% o2. he blacked out and drowned on me. On the up side we were pretty shallow and at the start of our dive only 40' or so... on the way up he suffered an embolisim in his left lung. since he was unable to exhale the expanding gas ruptured his lung...hence dont hold your breath! At the surface he was unresponsive...again on the up side my rescue instructor was a ball bust'n bitch that ran me ragged for three days... so every thing just kinda happened screamed my freak'n head off to get 911 rolling rescue breaths got him out of his gear bla bla bla more rescue breaths a long time later aound 3 min. the fire department showed up we got him out of the water and we spent the next week at Harbourview in Seattle. Belive it or not that IS the short story. Jason is doing fine and just received his ok from the doc to start diving again after a breif 6 months off. Maby I should have said this first we are both verry experianced and we were doing a lot of tec diving befor the accident. So dont let this put you off scuba it is a fairly safe sport and theirs a whole nother world for you to discover just a few feet below the surface. Things that will blow your mind and put a huge smile on your face. So go get your cert and have a good time if your ever in the N.W. and want to see some really cool shit I know a couple good spots! Sorry for the crappy spelling but i'm in a hurry Its time for Prime rib and BEERBill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #27 May 10, 2007 Quote I just finished my scuba class - pool and the classroom portion of it. The only thing that I had to deal with was cramping in the calves. And yes, I stretched before class but it still happened for me. I'm doing my open water dives in June - and I fully expect calf cramps then. Yikes, well I guess I'll pay close attention to stretching my legs! Where are you doing your open water dives? I'm doing mine in June too, but I'm not sure where yet (probably somewhere around San Diego). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #28 May 10, 2007 Thanks for sharing the story, Bill. Glad to hear your friend is ok! And thanks for the encouragement too. Enjoy your prime rib and beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #29 May 10, 2007 my wife and i got certified 2 years ago, and dive laguana regually. once you get certified, go get your advanced dive, rescure dive, tech dive...and other certs...contiuned training is really good. oh, and we dive at night, when all the cool preditors and neat stuff is out! ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #30 May 10, 2007 Check out www.scubaboard.com for a lot of information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #31 May 10, 2007 Quoteand dive laguana regually Where is that? If I like it, I'll probably go for the advanced stuff, but I'm not even sure if I'll like it yet (though I think I will!). And the night stuff sounds really cool... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #32 May 10, 2007 In skydiving you will always come down, in scuba you might not come upDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #33 May 10, 2007 Quote Check out www.scubaboard.com for a lot of information. Thanks. I had found another forum, but I never got past all the articles on the front page about injuries and fatalities. (I couldn't really find the "forum" part of it.) The site that you posted looks much better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #34 May 10, 2007 Quote Quote and dive laguana regually Where is that? If I like it, I'll probably go for the advanced stuff, but I'm not even sure if I'll like it yet (though I think I will!). And the night stuff sounds really cool... This d is my one recommendation to all people who SCUBA, if you plan on doing it as a Hobby PLEASE get certified to at LEAST Advanced divers cert. PREFERABLY to Rescue Diver Cert. PADI courses are not what they once wereYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #35 May 10, 2007 QuoteQuoteand dive laguana regually Where is that? If I like it, I'll probably go for the advanced stuff, but I'm not even sure if I'll like it yet (though I think I will!). And the night stuff sounds really cool... sorry, Laguna Beach, CA. "Divers" Cove is a very basic dive....30-40 feet, decent reef. it is a shore dive, where you enter through the waves. the night diving is like night jumping...it really awakens your senses. plus, at night you will see more aquatic life. last dive we spotted some small sharks...nice ones though...not great whites! where are you located? ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_22359 0 #36 May 10, 2007 Quote Quote Quote and dive laguana regually Where is that? If I like it, I'll probably go for the advanced stuff, but I'm not even sure if I'll like it yet (though I think I will!). And the night stuff sounds really cool... This d is my one recommendation to all people who SCUBA, if you plan on doing it as a Hobby PLEASE get certified to at LEAST Advanced divers cert. PREFERABLY to Rescue Diver Cert. PADI courses are not what they once were Amen to that Rescue isnt just for the people you dive with it's for you as well! P= put A=another D=dollar I=in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #37 May 10, 2007 Quote Yikes, well I guess I'll pay close attention to stretching my legs! Where are you doing your open water dives? I'm doing mine in June too, but I'm not sure where yet (probably somewhere around San Diego). Definitely stretch them. My open water dives are June 2nd and June 23rd at one of the local quarries. I'm excited and can not wait! Have fun with the class - I know that I did.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coconutmonkey 0 #38 May 10, 2007 No real problems... unless you count your boat captain leaving you in the Pacific as lost... Stick to your dive plan and make sure someone else knows the plan back home... Hearts & Minds 2 to the Heart- 1 to the Mind- Home of the Coconut Lounge, Spa, & Artillery Range Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #39 May 10, 2007 I started SCUBA about 2 years ago and it still scares me way more than skydiving ever did. I think it's because the dangers are not as visible.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingJ 0 #40 May 10, 2007 QuoteOh, and what happens if you hold your breath? (I'm sure they'll go over that in class, but I'll ask here anyway.) You are breathing compressed air. As you ascend, the compressed air you have in your lungs will expand. By continuing to breathe normally (or at minimum continuing to blow bubbles) you allow the expanded air to escape. If you hold your breath the expanded air has nowhere to go and can cause an overexpansion injury, to the point of rupturing your lungs. Have fun, be safe, and find good dive buddies! They make all the difference in the world!Killing threads since 2004. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingJ 0 #41 May 10, 2007 Quote I started SCUBA about 2 years ago and it still scares me way more than skydiving ever did. I think it's because the dangers are not as visible. Me too. I have way more SCUBA experience than skydiving, but I still get the heebie jeebies a little heavier in the water than in the air. For me I think it has to do with putting my life in the event something goes wrong in my buddy's hands. I had a buddy almost breath a tank dry. We started full, but I think the excitement of getting some good video got to him and he must have been breathing much harder than normal. We had agreed to let each other know when we were down half a tank, and when I did so he noticed that he was just about dry. During our last deco stop and to the surface he buddy breathed off my octo, and it really hit me when it occurred to me how his not paying attention to his guages could have affected me if I'd had an equipment problem. Thankfully all was fine, and it was a good confidence booster to have been able to recognize a problem and deal with it.Killing threads since 2004. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingJ 0 #42 May 10, 2007 Quote And the best thing ever is you CAN pee while scuba diving, but it's not a good idea to pee while skydiving. Yeah, uh, but if you get in the habit of peeing while in a wetsuit, just try to remember to change the rules if you happen to be wearing a drysuit. Killing threads since 2004. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SLIDER 0 #43 May 10, 2007 I Have over 1000 dives and have been an instructor for a long time. There are rules and people like to challenge those rules, that's usually when things go bad. Just like in Skydiving - things can happen - but if you take the nec precautions and prepare properly - It's a hell of a good time PM me if you have any specific questions Scott"there's a fine line between hobby and mental illness" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #44 May 10, 2007 QuoteI started SCUBA about 2 years ago and it still scares me way more than skydiving ever did. Whereas I'm the opposite. I've done 20-odd dives, but since I'm not seriously into looking at fish, it all got a little boring. Was nice to learn though. Anyone want to buy a Suunto Stinger? Only dived twice... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acensky 0 #45 May 10, 2007 I have been diving for 4 years and every now and then I get that feeling like I did on my very first dive. It only comes around when I haven't been diving in a while or I'm in a new place with new people. After a few minutes it goes away. I love diving, I wish I could have learned to dive sooner. HeatherGarbage bags do not make good parachutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
novacaine 0 #46 May 10, 2007 when I used to teach (DM rating), I suggested to my students to equalize their ears at the surface before submersing. This usually helps with any slight head congestion. If you have any problems in the ears ascend 10ft and try again, then proceed on the dive. Like skydiving, do gear checks prior to the dive. nothing sucks more then to splash in and decsent to 20ft, only to forget to hook up your drysuit. That sucks. Remember that the dive table are NOT suggested bottom times. Your acsent should not be faster then 30ft/min. Regardless of what your manuals say. (I found this out the hard way by the recompression doctor!!) Assuming your taking your course through PADI, once you have your Openwater cert, take future courses through NAUI or SSI. (As PADI stands for Put Another Dollar In.) Allows have dive insurance, even if your diving just around the corner from your house. most people feel they don't need it unless on a vacation. DAN offers this besides some other companys. hope this helps! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
novacaine 0 #47 May 10, 2007 QuoteI still believe scuba is more dangerous than skydiving. Just seems like so much more can go wrong. I agree!! There are more failure points in scuba equipment. About 95% of these failure points the diver can't check until the anual servicing. (such as O-rings, High Pressure seats, oil/moisture in tanks too name the major causes.) In 15 years of diving I have seen many equipment failures. My worst was a double reg failures (2 first stages blew apart) in 250fsw. thank god for my dive buddy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #48 May 10, 2007 I had a problem one time. I nearly drowned. Following along the bottom in the Alafia River in FL picking up shark's teeth. Simply floating along with the current, nose stuck to the bottom because the water is very brackish with tannin...6-8 inch visibility. BAM! I ran smack dab into a hideous monster! The one from your worst nightmare. I screamed like a little school girl (blurbleAIEEEEEEgurgle) and nearly drowned myself...after I got over the shock I realized it was only a manatee.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #49 May 10, 2007 Had a dive partner who would get sea sick...though the fish loved it, so it was win win for me. Never any issues with diving, just listen to all the other posts and your instructor....never hold your breath, and take your time coming up.....also, you want to be out of the water with at least 500 (or a lil lower) on your guage. At least thats my rule and again, never had any problems. SONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #50 May 10, 2007 Quote Had a dive partner who would get sea sick...though the fish loved it, so it was win win for me. That happened to a buddy of mine on a great wall near malaysia. His head looked like scanners with all of the sea life divebombing it from out of the wall. Chummers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites