bigway 4 #1 May 22, 2007 WTF?!? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #2 May 22, 2007 What exactly are you confused about, the entire thing was pretty clear to me. On the one question I heard on the radio this morning - why didn't Peter just fly up? Well, 1) He wasn't in control anymore 2) He was scared and 3) As he said early in the show, he was scared and needed Nathan's help. If you doubt this, revisist what the voice over said in the beginning and end of the episode (which is what Episode 1 opened up with): Quote Where does it come from, this quest? This need to solve life's mysteries from the simplest of questions can never be answered. Why are we here? What is the soul? Why do we dream? Perhaps we'd be better off not looking at all. Not delving, not yearning. But that's not human nature. Not the human heart. That is not why we are here. Yet still we struggle to make a difference, to change the world, to dream of hope never knowing for certain who we will meet along the way. Who among the world of strangers will hold our hand, touch our hearts, and share the pain and triumph?" And then it ends with: Quote So much struggle for meaning. But in the end, we find it only in each other: our shared experience of the fantastic and the mundane. The simple human need to find a kindred. And to know in our hearts that we are not alone. Pretty much every story line was finished and they opened up a few more story lines in the final minutes. One of the better season finales I've seen on tv in some time. Mind you, most consider a season finale anti-climatic due to 20+ hours worth of TV buildup over an entire year, along with the public hype....all to be completed in 50 minutes. My only question is, when does Season 2 start?!_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #3 May 22, 2007 and who comes back for season 2?I am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #4 May 22, 2007 Since Sylar (The Boogieman) is dead (or is he) I'm very interested in who Molly can see, but won't look for. Since whenever she looks for them, they can see her. Then you have to wonder about the blood trail from Sylar into the sewer system. They're powers are DNA scrambles. Not some supernatural event. It's mixed into their DNA so possibly anything that ingests his blood could potentially come up with some type of power. That was how he got his from the other mutants was to eat their brains. Well at least I assume he ate them. Some how he was able to gather their abilities via the removal of the brain. I still have questions about Hiro's ability to stop time. If it's the ability to time travel how does he also transport himself to other parts of the world. HG Wells explained time travel as moving through time but not place. So let's say you wanted to go back 30 years. The spot you stood in wouldn't move, time would just roll back from when you started. You would still be standing in the same place, just 30 years later. The potential for death would be great, seeing as there could have been a wall or some large immovable object in place of the spot you are standing in. This in turn would be like warping in space into an asteroid. Ughh, my brain hurts now. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #5 May 22, 2007 He can teleport and time travel/stop time, two seperate powers. I know season 2 will heavily focus on Hiro and his Father....introducing us to a bunch of new characters. There wasn't a full solar eclipse in 1671 (thank you wikipedia) so I wonder what that symbol means as Episode 1 in both seasons opens up with that event. I've read that they've told Quinto (Sylar) he could be used again and that he would love to play that character again. BTW - one guess on the two brothers. Peter came face to face with Jessica and we saw him use the strength on Sylar. But the other power that is never talked about is her ability to absorb a sibling (or something like that). That is a way to keep Nathan alive._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #6 May 22, 2007 Quote He can teleport and time travel/stop time, two seperate powers. I know season 2 will heavily focus on Hiro and his Father....introducing us to a bunch of new characters. There wasn't a full solar eclipse in 1671 (thank you wikipedia) so I wonder what that symbol means as Episode 1 in both seasons opens up with that event. Thank, I thought it was 2 powers, but was never really sure about it. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #7 May 22, 2007 I was confused about the funny moon at the end. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agent_lead 0 #8 May 22, 2007 My quips... Hiro should have cut sylars head off, Parkman and DL should have died, Peter should have flown his own whiney ass into orbit, Claire should have tried to deck her Mom who should have shown us some scary ass power, the girl who changes shape should have morphed into a giant fat woman when she went unconscious , the fight with Sylar should have involved more heroes (Nikki stepping in was almost baddass, almost), and that little girl looks like she wants to eat my brains when she smiles. Oh and Suresh needs to get a goddamn clue about everything.-------------------------------------------- www.facebook.com/agentlead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricaH 0 #9 May 22, 2007 At the very end I thought the thing shadowing the sun was going to be a UFO, making this about aliens - i hate aliens!!!! i am so pissed that hiro didn't cut off sylar's head. dang those eyebrows are annoying. peter should have flown himself into the sky. i know it's about shared experiences, but.... and finally, what power does nathan & peter's mom have?! i need to know! that's it not much to add - just that this show would be better watched as a movie, all at one time. so, when does next season start & will it too have month+ long gaps? There is no can't. Only lack of knowledge or fear. Only you can fix your fear. PMS #227 (just like the TV show) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #10 May 22, 2007 Quote At the very end I thought the thing shadowing the sun was going to be a UFO, making this about aliens - i hate aliens!!!! Is that what bigway was confused about? It was just a solar eclipse...I just am still lost on why that image is so important to the show. I am hoping that comes up this fall. Quote so, when does next season start & will it too have month+ long gaps? I'm guessing the start of the fall sweeps season in Sept/Oct. There will not be gaps this time around, but the show will take a pause. Instead of another show or reruns during that offseason stint, there will be a spinoff called 'Heroes:Orgins" which will be a bunch of stand along episodes that introduce us to a single new hero each week. So with Volume 2 and Origin we will get about 30 new shows this coming season._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #11 May 22, 2007 Quote My quips... Hiro should have cut sylars head off, Parkman and DL should have died, Peter should have flown his own whiney ass into orbit, Claire should have tried to deck her Mom who should have shown us some scary ass power, the girl who changes shape should have morphed into a giant fat woman when she went unconscious , the fight with Sylar should have involved more heroes (Nikki stepping in was almost baddass, almost), and that little girl looks like she wants to eat my brains when she smiles. Oh and Suresh needs to get a goddamn clue about everything. I think some of those are valid points, and even thou I understand why Nathan helped, I think it was a bit corny. Suresh is essentially the viewer....his journey is roughly the same as ours....someone on the outside looking into this world. He is put there for us to identify with him so we feel closer to the story, his reactions would be like ours. At least that is my interpretation of him. Sylar and Peter fell into the same issue that most comic book ultra powerfuls fall into: there isn't much you can do with them and in the end you have to remove them from the book to help the story advance._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #12 May 22, 2007 Or nathan still could have flown him, but just dropped or thrown him and let him blow up on his own without killing him too. ::sigh:: I dunno.... I thought it was pretty anti-climatic. Not that it wasn't good, I guess my expectations were too high. Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #13 May 22, 2007 All I'm wondering is what does "Save the cheerleader, Save the world" mean? You would think that by this it would mean that if they saved Claire she would do something to save the world. But in the final episode, she really did not do anything to either kill Syler or Peter. So what good was saving her besides keeping a cute chick in the storyline? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #14 May 22, 2007 They did make a movie, actually they made a few. It is called X-men 1, 2 and 3. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freekflyguy 0 #15 May 23, 2007 Quote All I'm wondering is what does "Save the cheerleader, Save the world" mean? You would think that by this it would mean that if they saved Claire she would do something to save the world. But in the final episode, she really did not do anything to either kill Syler or Peter. So what good was saving her besides keeping a cute chick in the storyline? By "Saving the Cheerleader" Peter gained her power to regenerate, had she been killed by Sylar, he would have gained her power and Hiro would not have been able to kill him "Save the World" if he infact did??It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricaH 0 #16 May 23, 2007 Quote They did make a movie, actually they made a few. It is called X-men 1, 2 and 3. That's not what I meant. I meant that it'll probably be good rented in a few years from a movie rental place so you can watch all the episodes together, like one long movie (that's how I got hooked on Weeds). 30 new episodes sounds good - those big gaps were annoying. I too wondered why nathan didn't just fly peter up high & drop him or fly him to the desert & drop him off or something. there'll probably be some reason for him being killed. peter's my favorite. but i feel bad for ando, he wants to play too. There is no can't. Only lack of knowledge or fear. Only you can fix your fear. PMS #227 (just like the TV show) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #17 May 23, 2007 When do you find time to skydive, since you're apparently always glued to the tellie? "No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #18 May 23, 2007 Quote I dunno.... I thought it was pretty anti-climatic. Not that it wasn't good, I guess my expectations were too high. No, I agree with you. I was expecting so much more. I mean...they've had almost everyone trying to stop Sylar throughout the season. And then THAT was the best they could do? I wanted more fighting, more skills used and a more spectacular ending. They spent 3 months teasing us...then took a few months off...then came back with THIS? It was like they tried to shove the whole closure into about the last 10 minutes of the show. And I agree that Nathan's mother is a witch and Claire should've kicked her ugly, wrinkled old ass!!! Peter is supposed to be invincible, like Claire. Do you think he'll fall back to earth somewhere and come back in the next season? Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #19 May 23, 2007 I think Sylar is going to be kept around. I mean...you've GOT to have a bad guy that everyone loves to hate! Since it's not Sylar that Molly doesn't want to think about, I'm curious about who it is. Are they going to bring someone in that's even more deliciously evil than Sylar? Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #20 May 23, 2007 I read something today that made sense about why the finale was so bleh... This series of characters where only supposed to run one season. Then a new crop of Heroes would come next season. But, the series was such a hit and the characters were so beloved they had to save them somehow. Sylar isn't dead... he slid down into the sewers. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #21 May 23, 2007 Quote Sylar isn't dead... he slid down into the sewers. And Peter shouldn't be dead either - he can regenerate. Nathan I'm guessing is dead... unless he dropped Peter at the last second and got far enough away. And the funky symbol we keep seeing all over the place - didn't Hiro (or his friend) translate it at one point into "God send"? I'm thinking next season will show the 'start' of the Heros - Linderman, Hiro's dad, Peter's mom all alluded to the group of them that was before.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #22 May 23, 2007 I dont sleep very well. I live in Australia and run a business in the UK. So I am up all night working. Work is not that busy but it important to be up. I download these shows from torrents and watch as I work. Then during the daytime i head off to my job in Australia. I sleep about 4 hours a night and then every couple of weeks i crash out for a day or two. Skydiving is on hold right now. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmittar 0 #23 May 23, 2007 Quote I read something today that made sense about why the finale was so bleh... This series of characters where only supposed to run one season. Then a new crop of Heroes would come next season. But, the series was such a hit and the characters were so beloved they had to save them somehow. Sylar isn't dead... he slid down into the sewers. Yeah, I liked it when they were killing off a minor hero every week. My guess is that was the intended trend but they had to change it. |>.Seriously, W.T.F. mate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #24 May 23, 2007 The heroes spin-off show starts next season. Called Heroes: Origins. Will be shown in the break that they have. The show is in the format of chapters, this chapter is over a new chapter will now begin... there will be many of those heroes we will not focus on next season and there will be many more new heroes and a new villian of course. What i read from the producers it sounds really creative , however looking back on the show it is kind of boring and just running around in circles. Nothing really happened in that season to keep you on the edge of your seat... it felt like they were just getting going and then it ended. Big let down to what could have been a more intelligent show. Get that feeling that maybe they should have made it for children and put it on at 4pm. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites