grue 1 #1 September 5, 2006 I'm trying to get my hands on a demo canopy so I have somethign to jump on my birthday next weekend, and I'm guessing a Sabre2 is going to be what I'll end up with. My Fusion that I'm used to tends to have the power come on strong high in the control range and is pretty constant through the stroke. The Safire2 that I put a few jumps on didn't seem to do a whole lot until you get about halfway through the stroke. Where's the Sabre2 play when it comes to the flare?cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #2 September 5, 2006 Grue, I'm still exploring my 150 loaded at 1.35. But it has lots of power from top to bottom. I was at Byron and was just a little late starting my flare and punched it like I would on my old Sabre1 170. I was back up 10 feet in the air. I have come in at half brakes and still had enough left to just have a little run out at the end. Other than the hunting opening, me likee my Sabre2.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #3 September 6, 2006 Grue, i have never jumped a sabre2, and someone else will probably call me stupid. However, you will find in your skydiving career that several of icarus' canopies have a longer toggle stroke than most other canopies. Some people like that, some don't. That is the beauty of having so many different options. I have found that most pd canopies tend to react quicker in the toggles on the flare. I E, start noticing a difference before shoulder height. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #4 September 6, 2006 Hook it up, jump it, open high, do a couple of practice flares. See how it responds at your wingloading and density altitude. Et Voilà! You now know how to land the canopy correctly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #5 September 6, 2006 QuoteHook it up, jump it, open high, do a couple of practice flares. See how it responds at your wingloading and density altitude. Et Voilà! You now know how to land the canopy correctly. Haha, fair enough. More or less my plan, but I figure a little research isn't going to kill me. 'tis better to be well informed and well prepared than just one, no?cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #6 September 6, 2006 Quotetis better to be well informed and well prepared than just one, no? No argument there. It's just that this talk of "powerbands" and "flare strokes" has always befuddled me. If you can bring the canopy close-ish to the stall, then you can land it. And since you shouldn't be looking at the canopy or your hands when landing - you should be adapting to the motion of the parachute relative to the ground - it doesn't really seem all that relevant to me. However, it's always possible I'm talking absolute rubbish here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #7 September 6, 2006 The Sabre2 has a pretty long control range. I have the lower control lines set quite long on my personal 97, though, and I still have tons of power starting at around the shoulders. YMMV. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 0 #8 September 7, 2006 [Quote. It's just that this talk of "powerbands" has always befuddled me. Powerbands are in some motorcycles not parachutes. Parachutes have 'power' in the 'flare stroke' and have 'bands' on the 'D-Bag', i saw some 'silly bands' in a magazine, no powerbands though. This is all too confusing, i mean befuddling. PM me sometime so we can talk about parachutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites