diablopilot 2 #1 March 27, 2007 Discuss.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #2 March 27, 2007 another thread right to the recycle bin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 March 27, 2007 Really? Why so? There have been at least 6 fatalities in the last 3 months at boogies. Boogies are statistically higher risk events.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #4 March 27, 2007 all these boogies happened at DZ's ...maybe we should ban DZ's? Discuss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #5 March 27, 2007 Looks like the WFFC has been banned and that was one always good for a fatality/year. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 March 27, 2007 I wouldn't say it was banned, but yes, based on it's length, it was a pretty risky event to attend. Even if you were not jumping.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #7 March 27, 2007 QuoteEven if you were not jumping. LOL ... just ask one of my CO friends who got into a night time drunken golf cart accident back in '03 when he drove his cart into a fire hydrant hidden by some vegitation. He broke some ribs, a girl in the front seat apparently broke her wrist and two dudes sitting on the back of the golf cart got a bad case of whip lash. The WFFC was not a safe event. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #8 March 27, 2007 The sad thing is this thread will not get the attention it deserves because it attacks something people approve of. As proven on DZ.com and on DZ's world wide, people rarely want to look at the root causes of an accident, but would much rather find a relaively non-offensive, and non-personal restrictive scape goat to hang the whole thing on, and then forget it ever happend. Point is, boogies are increasing the number of fatalities occuring every year.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #9 March 27, 2007 so does skydiving. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #10 March 27, 2007 Well thank god that they decided to not hold WFFC this year..now we have time to get drunken golf cart drivers properly licenced. I am forming a new non-profit org.....SDADGCD. SkyDiversAgainstDrunkGolfCartDrivers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #11 March 27, 2007 QuotePoint is, boogies are increasing the number of fatalities occuring every year. Agreed ... Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #12 March 27, 2007 QuoteDiscuss. This makes about as much sense as banning 270s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ORANGENBLUE 0 #13 March 27, 2007 JP, I think you might be on to something here! Boogies often have jumpers participating that are not very current, at a DZ that they are not very familier with, possibly lacking sleep (from having a good time) or still feeling the effects of a good time. one of the things I look foward to watching is the pops big ways at Lost Prairie, they are usually good for a cypres fire or two! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HillerMyLife 0 #14 March 27, 2007 I think banning boogies because they kill people makes about as much sense as banning sex because it creates people. I've never been to one, HOWEVER my home DZ is one of the busier as far as jump numbers and canopy traffic and we routinely have to deal with 10+ canopys in the air on any given jump. I would hazard a guess that any given weekend is about as busy as a moderately sized boogie anywhere else. That said, I think it is really up to the individual skydivers to take charge of their jumps each and everytime. Pay attention to who is on the load with you. Try and remember if you have been on a load with them before or seen them fly their canopy. Avoid reckless or seemingly reckless jumpers. If you don't come from a turbine or busy DZ know your limits!! Get on the early morning loads when many are still nursing hangovers, and the later loads when many have already cracked a few beers. These are just a few suggestions from an low timer, but a lot of them have to do with good old fashioned common sense... Yes there are still going to be some risks involved with things like sex or skydiving...but there are lots of things a person can do to take as much charge of the situation as possible. Putting a ban on it takes all the fun and responsiblity out of it.Someday Never Comes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #15 March 27, 2007 QuoteQuoteDiscuss. This makes about as much sense as banning 270s. Maybe that was JP's point? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packertom 0 #16 March 27, 2007 Honestly guys, it has nothing to do with the boogie. If you look at the stats, this is the time of year when accidents tend to happen in groups... season is opening up again, DZ's are planning events to kick off the season... jumpers haven't in many cases jumped for a while... how about we all focus on safety? it doesn't matter if there is 1 or a hundred people at the dropzone or if there is a party planned for later... cranking off a 270 in the main landing area is not a good idea. Tomtom@velocitysportswear.com www.velocitysportswear.com What's YOUR Zombie Plan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #17 March 27, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteDiscuss. This makes about as much sense as banning 270s. Maybe that was JP's point? No way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #18 March 27, 2007 Quote I've never been to one, HOWEVER my home DZ is one of the busier as far as jump numbers and canopy traffic and we routinely have to deal with 10+ canopys in the air on any given jump. I would hazard a guess that any given weekend is about as busy as a moderately sized boogie anywhere else. just fyi. the definition of "moderately" can vary a bit, but a "moderate" boogie to me means at least two turbine aircraft so potential for 28-48 persons in the air at any given time. I was actually going to make a reference here to another socially "hot" topic, but decided not to b/c it would most likely send this thread straigt to the speakers corner.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #19 March 27, 2007 POPS has never hosted an LP big way. I have organized a 50+ way there the last 7 years or so. No cypres fires on those loads. "Skydive boogies don't kill people, skydivers do" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #20 March 27, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDiscuss. This makes about as much sense as banning 270s. Maybe that was JP's point? No way? and we come right back to the second post of the thread about it going to the recycle bin... bitching and whinning threads ..... esp when there are already countless ongoing threads for a swooper to vent his/her frustrations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ORANGENBLUE 0 #21 March 27, 2007 I must have imagined the 2 out/chopped perfect bi-planed main @ 200ft the last time I was there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #22 March 27, 2007 Demo jumps are statistically pretty dangerous too, so why not ban those too while we're at it? ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #23 March 27, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDiscuss. This makes about as much sense as banning 270s. Maybe that was JP's point? No way? and we come right back to the second post of the thread about it going to the recycle bin... bitching and whinning threads ..... esp when there are already countless ongoing threads for a swooper to vent his/her frustrations. It's not bitching and whining. It's illustrating the point that one is about as useful as the other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #24 March 27, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDiscuss. This makes about as much sense as banning 270s. Maybe that was JP's point? No way? and we come right back to the second post of the thread about it going to the recycle bin... bitching and whinning threads ..... esp when there are already countless ongoing threads for a swooper to vent his/her frustrations. It's not bitching and whining. It's illustrating the point that one is about as useful as the other. I disagree....there are many threads already going for one to voice his/her displeasure with popular opinion and new rules enstated at some DZ's...this thread was started as a spoof IMHO and should not have gotten this far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #25 March 27, 2007 Quoteanother thread right to the recycle bin close enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
