SKYDIVE 0 #1 September 23, 2006 The container I own (Vortex II) was orginally designed for a 170 main however I've sinced downsized to a 150. Even with the closure loop shortned the flaps seems to be loose and looks very untidy. The freefly pud also doen't tuck nicely under the flap once it's closed and the whole think looks out of sorts. Is it possible to fix this problem without having to buy another rig ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #2 September 23, 2006 Since you are loading it 30+ pounds more than maximum I think the smart thing to do is go back the 170 which you are only loading about 10 to 15 pounds over maximum. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #3 September 24, 2006 There are major safety issues with an underfilled main container. I recommend you address the problem and lot jump it if things aren't right. Merely tightening the loop is not the solution. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #4 September 24, 2006 You could try contacting the manufacturer and asking them. Here on dropzone.com I have read historical tales of minor modifications manufacturers can make to containers to reduce the effective sizes and make them work better with "too-small" canopies. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #5 September 24, 2006 The manufacturer might recommend that you sew in a pillow. Your local Master Rigger might be able to make a pillow for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vectracide 0 #6 September 24, 2006 Hey. My personal experience with a main size that doesn't match the container is limited...but what I can tell you is this. The one and only time I put my main in anothers container that wasn't sized right, my freefly pud came loose and I had a head down premature deployment at 170mph. No fun and potentially deadly depending on what main you are flying and wether or not you have someone directly above you. In my case it was a long sniveler main and no one directly above me. (5-way) If you want video..let me know. So, you can see the potential problems here that can have disastrous results. If its that loose....don't even think about it. That experience scared the shit outta me. Just imagine having to float back from 6-7k wondering the whole time if you have a internal injury that will leave you unconscious before you get to the ground. Not a nice thought huh. ------------------------------ Controlled and Deliberate..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjc 0 #7 September 24, 2006 Quote The manufacturer might recommend that you sew in a pillow. Your local Master Rigger might be able to make a pillow for you I've heard of this before. In fact a rigger offered to do it for me when I enquired if my rig would take a smaller main (it already had 1 downsize). But I was thinking that if you changed the internal shape and size of the container, wouldn't you also have to change the d-bag to fit?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SKYDIVE 0 #8 September 24, 2006 Could the main packing tray be made smaller without having to take the whole thing apart ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #9 September 24, 2006 QuoteCould the main packing tray be made smaller without having to take the whole thing apart ?[/repl In a word, no. Too many overlapping flaps and common surfaces that can't be altered without changing the functionality of most modern sport rigs. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites recovercrachead 0 #10 September 25, 2006 packing paper on every pack job.Track high, Pull LOW!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Martini 0 #11 September 25, 2006 The solution is easy. Get a crossbraced canopy, they have a larger pack volume and that should solve the loose loop problem. Naturally there could be some unwanted side effects. Seriously though, most any container should be able to comfortably handle a canopy one size smaller than the original design. I can't say that the Vortex is capable of doing that safely though. I can tell you that I have an Infinity designed for a Stiletto 150 that currently has a Sabre-1 120 in it and it looks fine and has plenty of closing loop tension.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites brianfry713 0 #12 September 26, 2006 QuoteIf you want video..let me know. Let's see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
recovercrachead 0 #10 September 25, 2006 packing paper on every pack job.Track high, Pull LOW!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #11 September 25, 2006 The solution is easy. Get a crossbraced canopy, they have a larger pack volume and that should solve the loose loop problem. Naturally there could be some unwanted side effects. Seriously though, most any container should be able to comfortably handle a canopy one size smaller than the original design. I can't say that the Vortex is capable of doing that safely though. I can tell you that I have an Infinity designed for a Stiletto 150 that currently has a Sabre-1 120 in it and it looks fine and has plenty of closing loop tension.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #12 September 26, 2006 QuoteIf you want video..let me know. Let's see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites