skydiverek 63 #1 October 12, 2006 A new option appeared on the Vector 3-M and Micron order forms: 'one piece OR two piece leg pad'. The two piece that used to be the only option till now is on the RIGHT. New one piece design is on the LEFT. What are pros and cons of each? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #2 October 12, 2006 Looks to me like the ONLY difference is the pad. One has on behind the hip ring and the othere does not. In fact I dont know why they would call it a "two" piece, other than that extra "pad" and associated material would be the second piece. me personally: less fabric = less maintenance = less worries about color/replacement/damage/etc.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivex3m 0 #3 October 12, 2006 I have just recieved my new micron with two piece. the one piece pad has a direct connection of fabric between the the two sides, so that it can wrinkle the fabric that goes between the ring and hip when the pads is being twisted in the ring. hope you understand me. I personally dont like that..https://icarusanddaedalusadventures.blogspot.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #4 October 12, 2006 Do you "feel" the hip rings? I mean, without the "protective layer", do you feel them (are they uncomfortable)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #5 October 12, 2006 I don't own a micron, but I don't feel the hip rings on my icon ever. Unless your going sans clothing I think this would be true for all rigs with hip rings."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #6 October 12, 2006 QuoteI have just recieved my new micron with two piece. the one piece pad has a direct connection of fabric between the the two sides, so that it can wrinkle the fabric that goes between the ring and hip when the pads is being twisted in the ring. hope you understand me. I personally dont like that.. I see what you're saying. I dont see the added value of that material my self. ive worn many different rigs, of varying sizes and configurations. I have never "felt" the hip rings. In fact, a rig w/ hip rings, for me, is less likely to have a "feel than wone without rings at all. IMHO that additiona piece covering the hip ring would be a step closer to a std. harness w/ no hip rings.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontiego 0 #7 October 12, 2006 Couldn't it be so that they want to prevent people from having rubber bands in the hip rings to tuck their t-shirt in? (saw pictures of how it damages the webbing... not good) Ok, you can still have a 2 piece leg strap, but if they managed to set the 1 piece strap as a standard... Or more generally, could it be so that it protects the leg webbing from being rubbed against , and RW prefers rubbing against their own material?"We call on the common man to rise up in revolt against this evil of typographical ignorance." http://bancomicsans.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mostly_Harmless 0 #8 October 12, 2006 I have the one piece on my Javelin. I don't know if the hip ring would bother me otherwise but it sure is comfortable. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/outlaw12cz/Javelin/DSCN0433.jpg_________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #9 October 12, 2006 I suspect that the new one-piece leg pads are merely an attempt at reducing manufacturing costs. Hip ring patent-holder, Rigging Innovations has never used one-piece pads and neither did Sun Path on their first thousand or so ringed harnesses. If harness geometry is correct, then padding under the ring is irrelevant. Padding under the buckle is also irrelevant for most men, though padding under the buckle helps on women because their pelvises have a boney lump farther forward. When you get the harness geometry correct, padding becomes a luxury. Once the harness is tightened, the angle between the upper and lower leg straps only changes a little, so two piece leg pads are a luxury. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HydroGuy 0 #10 October 12, 2006 Looks like the one pice design would be more comfortable for "larger framed" individuals...keep that ring from digging into their "excess".Get in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazydiver 0 #11 October 12, 2006 QuoteCouldn't it be so that they want to prevent people from having rubber bands in the hip rings to tuck their t-shirt in? (saw pictures of how it damages the webbing... not good) I'm failing to see how this would damage webbing. Do you have a photo or explanation of the damage? Cheers, Travis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolla 0 #12 October 12, 2006 I've had one with and one without - on my new Micron I have the one piece leg pad and they are super comfortable (I have owned a Javelin & a Mirage as well). Due to working with Isaiah, I get subjected to an unnaturally large number of hop & pops from full altitude, and being comfortable in the harness is important on those long rides down :) As with so many other things, this boils down to personal preference more than anything. Blue ones, KollaBlue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #13 October 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteCouldn't it be so that they want to prevent people from having rubber bands in the hip rings to tuck their t-shirt in? (saw pictures of how it damages the webbing... not good) I'm failing to see how this would damage webbing. Do you have a photo or explanation of the damage? Download THIS: http://www.relativeworkshop.com/pdf_files/09122.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attackforce 0 #14 April 30, 2014 I know that this is an old thread but anyone have anymore opinions between 1pc vs 2pc legpads on the new vectors? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites