What does Cypress ready mean?

[davekagi 0]

I have a rig for sale from the 90s and a prospect asked me, Is it
Cypress ready. What does that mean? Thanks
Dave

[skytash 0]

It means that it has the pocket in the reserve tray and any necessary routing around it for Cypres to be added, ie a rigger just needs to fit it rather than make any changes to add it to the rig.

tash

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[brabzzz 0]

A quick stab at google will answer that question. Might help to remove one 'S' first though!

edit: sh*t - mental note to self, read the question slowly and carefully first!

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[riggerrob 643]

In conclusion, every container - made in the last decade - was Cypres-ready when it left the factory.

Older rigs must be retrofitted by a Master Rigger approved by Airtec.

[MrFreefall383 0]

Piggybacking on this thread, would it make sense that a Javelin manufactured in 1990 would be Cypres ready?

"If at first you don't succeed... well, so much for skydiving." - aviation cliche

[BrianM 1]

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Piggybacking on this thread, would it make sense that a Javelin manufactured in 1990 would be Cypres ready?

No. The CYPRES wasn't available until 1991.

"It's amazing what you can learn while you're not talking." - Skydivesg

[MrFreefall383 0]

Was there any form of AAD available before 1991?

Edit: On second thought, better question. Could a Javelin manufactured in October 1990 have been retrofitted for a Cypres by Airtec shortly after it was constructed?

"If at first you don't succeed... well, so much for skydiving." - aviation cliche

[airtwardo 7]

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Was there any form of AAD available before 1991?

FXC and SSE had a popular one back in the day!

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[SkymonkeyONE 4]

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Was there any form of AAD available before 1991?

Edit: On second thought, better question. Could a Javelin manufactured in October 1990 have been retrofitted for a Cypres by Airtec shortly after it was constructed?

It's very possible that such a rig would have been CYPRES-modded after that time, assuming the owner wanted to install the device. It is a very simple mod.

Chuck

[MrBrant 0]

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Older rigs must be retrofitted by a Master Rigger approved by Airtec.

Airtec or the rig manufacturer?

[MrFreefall383 0]

OK, so it sounds to me like it's very possible a Javelin built in late 1990 could have been retrofitted for a Cypres. Thanks for the advice fellas.

"If at first you don't succeed... well, so much for skydiving." - aviation cliche

[slotperfect 7]

Just look in the bottom of the reserve container . . . is the CYPRES pouch sewn into the bottom?

Arrive Safely

John

[MrFreefall383 0]

Interesting point, I'll have to ask this seller about that. If it wasn't, what would that mean, that it wasn't really fitted for a Cypres? Also, the seller listed information saying that the prior owner had a Cypres 1 in it. Are the 1 and 2 cross-compatible with a Cypres-fitted rig, or is it specific to the model?

"If at first you don't succeed... well, so much for skydiving." - aviation cliche

[slotperfect 7]

OK . . . I may be confused by your first post. Do you have the rig and are selling it, or are you looking at buying this rig from somebody else?

Arrive Safely

John

[riggermick 7]

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Older rigs must be retrofitted by a Master Rigger approved by Airtec.

Airtec or the rig manufacturer?

In the US (master rigger) no approval needed from anyone except the "administrator" and the written instructions of both the AAD and H/C mfg's in hand. Pretty simple.

Mick.

[MrFreefall383 0]

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OK . . . I may be confused by your first post. Do you have the rig and are selling it, or are you looking at buying this rig from somebody else?

Sorry about the confusion. I'm considering buying this rig from someone else. It'll be my first rig, so the questions are rampant.

"If at first you don't succeed... well, so much for skydiving." - aviation cliche

[riggerrob 643]

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Older rigs must be retrofitted by a Master Rigger approved by Airtec.

Airtec or the rig manufacturer?

In the US (master rigger) no approval needed from anyone except the "administrator" and the written instructions of both the AAD and H/C mfg's in hand. Pretty simple.

Mick.

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So you mean that the $100 - that I mailed to Airtec in exchange for a video tape and a purple binder - was a waste?
Before I got Airtec's blessing, I remember Square One's loft manager FIERCELY protecting his RIGHT to be the only rigger who could do Cypres-retrofits!
Cypres-retrofits were almost a RELIGIOUS issue with him!

[bob.dino 1]

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OK . . . I may be confused by your first post. Do you have the rig and are selling it, or are you looking at buying this rig from somebody else?

Note that these MrFreefall383 is not the original poster (who is/was selling a rig).

[slotperfect 7]

Ah! That eliminates the confusion! I missed that, somehow . . .

Arrive Safely

John

[MrFreefall383 0]

That's part of why I was hesitant to tack onto another thread on a related topic. My bad.

"If at first you don't succeed... well, so much for skydiving." - aviation cliche

[riggermick 7]

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Older rigs must be retrofitted by a Master Rigger approved by Airtec.

Airtec or the rig manufacturer?

In the US (master rigger) no approval needed from anyone except the "administrator" and the written instructions of both the AAD and H/C mfg's in hand. Pretty simple.

Mick.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So you mean that the $100 - that I mailed to Airtec in exchange for a video tape and a purple binder - was a waste?
Before I got Airtec's blessing, I remember Square One's loft manager FIERCELY protecting his RIGHT to be the only rigger who could do Cypres-retrofits!
Cypres-retrofits were almost a RELIGIOUS issue with him!

No, not a waste, but a hundred bucks was a little steep for the instructions. Both you and I know all about the Sth CA rigging politics of the 80's and 90's, I wonder if anythings changed that much?

Mick.

[riggerrob 643]

Before I got Airtec's blessing, I remember Square One's loft manager FIERCELY protecting his RIGHT to be the only rigger who could do Cypres-retrofits!
Cypres-retrofits were almost a RELIGIOUS issue with him!

[riggermick 7]

OH YES!
I clearly remember the RELIGIOUS nature of rigging in Southern California.
Fortunately most of those zealots burned out and moved on.
I even remember one - newly minted - Master Rigger offering to "fuck you up" over a trivial matter. Hint: the answer was in a drawer less than a meter from him.





Ah, you've lost me there, I'm drawing a blank, what was the issue? Maybe that will spur the thought process along.

I do remember alot of huge egos bumping into one another, I also remember Sandys "secret" book in which he kept notes on all riggers in the area. The hope was to catch some trasgression and banish/ destroy one, two, as many as they could to ease the "rigger glut" in Sth CA. When I talked to a certain rigger (of shorter stature) years later he admitted to me that it wasn't so much about safety as it was MONEY. That, I and others had always assumed so years before, proving that politics is always about money even when it's not immediatly obvious.

Mick.